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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Time for a Labor Party in America.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

"Now if we just could be a little bit more like the republicans, that'll surely work this time around."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We need to abandon the Democratic Party at this point. Democrats are not capable of winning national elections. The Democratic Party is not run by serious people who actually intend on winning power and wielding it wisely. Those still telling folks to vote for Democrats are not politically serious people. The only future can be found in parties like the Working Families Party. Centrists will simply need to hold their nose, quit dividing the left, and vote for progressive candidates. Remember, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Republican. Democrats can't win national elections. In a two party system, we can't afford to throw our votes away on parties that are doomed to lose.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Americans: We're very unhappy with the status quo
Dems: Best I can do is more status quo

I'm watching from the sidelines but my gods, you guys need to take your politicians to account. Bricks for the current lot first, mind. The two "sides" aren't equal - one is awful and the other is redefining how bad human beings can be without directly sending people to gas chambers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of us have been trying. The masses tend to bully and tell us it's all our fault, somehow. According to the Democrats and their base, progressives are simultaneously too weak and unimportant to listen to, and so powerful that we can swing entire elections. I'm still waiting to hear how that one makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

And yet progressives say their policies are so supported and yet they can barely get Anyone elected.

Begs to wonder how that makes sense too or else they would've tea partied the dems by now.

I wish it were true but either progressives are too few or too lazy. Either way, same result.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The gas chambers will be televised.

Murca is so fucked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

They have no interest in listening to constituents. The “us or all hell breaks loose” tactic has worked too many times.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

"The “What Happened in 2024” report confirms that 30 million voters who showed up to the polls in 2020 failed to materialize in 2024. That is a big number, and it represents the largest number of drop-off voters dating back to 2012, when 27 million voters failed to return to the polls."

It wasn't a "drop off" and I was telling people why this was going to happen before the election.

The 2020 numbers were artificially inflated by vote by mail covid precautions.

Republican precincts saw the increased Democratic turnout and actively worked to make vote by mail harder which limited participation and when fewer people vote that only helps Republicans.

It was all so predictable and the fix is 100% vote by mail EVERYWHERE.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

COVID people, that's why the huge turnout in 2020, nothing else. Especially mail-in ballots.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Vote by mail addresses a huge obstacle to voting, employment. A lot of people can't take time off to vote.

Opening more voting sites would also be a good idea.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

"It's not the product it's the marketing" - Dems (probably)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Dem strategist brains are as wormy as RFK Jr’s, they’ll never accept that it was anything other than the moral impurity of the voting base that lost them the election.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once. Chasing these mythical "reasonable Republicans" has not worked, will not work, and will continue moving the Overton window further right.

So I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do. Could we please get another party that actually represents people???

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Here's the thing. No.

We don't really have two parties. We have oligarchs in control of both parties, and both parties work together to make sure no more parties can exist. They do this by making it seem like the right and the left are opposed to each other, but really both work together to keep you down.

We can't fix this with parties. What we need to do is abolish parties. Prevent rich people from consolidating power. Give no small group of power-hungry bastards the ability to control everything. This means a drastic overhaul, and the people in power are not going to give it up willingly. They won't fight fair, they won't accept the results of an election unless it goes their way, and they won't give you an opportunity to win.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once

They had power because the DNC was behind them, and due to the "victory fund" the DNC controlled the purse strings of a lot of state parties.

The voting members of the DNC listened, and elected a nonbiased DNC chair for the first time in decades.

So now the senior elected Dems don't have anyone behind them. Seniority only mattered as tradition, they can all lose their leadership positions now if they lose the next round of leadership votes.

Could we please get another party that actually represents people???

We basically did already. The Chair has ultimate control of the party, and we got a drastic change in chair.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

And Republicans stole the election

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