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I fully expect to come back to this post with plenty of Lemmy-tastic comments along the lines of "The people are tired of experts", but left-leaning instead of right.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Our leaders are not the most capable

Our leaders are crashing the plane for money

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I grew up poor in the southern part of the USA. Anti-intellectualism is a core tenant of most of the common religions in this region, which trend heavily towards evangelical christianity. One of my earliest formative memories is being called a "Scientologist" and getting condemned to hell because I believed in evolution. Lots to unpack there, I know.

On the other hand, I somewhat regularly get accused of using AI to write my comments/replies on various social media platforms, something which I have absolutely never done. Simply writing in my typical style, even with all the poor grammar and misspellings, is enough to make all the Dunning-Kruger mother fuckers crawl out of their basement long enough to make accusations against me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Verrrrrry clever, you misspelled ‘tenet’ but it doesn’t fool me, bot! /jk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Americans are the passengers and they elected the 9/11 hijackers and is celebrating "Liberal Pilots oWnEd 🤪" meanwhile the skyscrapers are seen outside the window.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I think a good point related to this was made by a YouTuber called Atun-Shei Films. In one of his Q&A videos he talked about this emphasized the problem is that experts need to get better at communicating with the public in an engaging way. Otherwise you end up with experts who scoff and tell you to just trust them when you ask questions about why they recommend certain things. And that's the space that anti-intellectual people will fill and provide their own opinion but can communicate it in an engaging way. It's definitely not fair that you both have to be an expert at something but also have to be good at communicating it but that's the reality we live in at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

More or less agree, but you can only dumb things down so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

It's not even about dumbing down, it's about presenting the information in an engaging and at least slightly entertaining way. People will watch hours long YouTube video going in depth on topics because those people know how to give the info in an engaging way. Experts either need to pick up those skills or start working with people who already have them. Because the people spreading disinformation focus a lot more on communications since they don't have to do any real research behind their positions, they just have to focus on selling it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

experts need to get better at communicating with the public in an engaging way

Experts should be experts in two fields instead of just one. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Either that or they need to start hiring communications people and taking their advice. And not just like the PR speak communications people but people who have experience with creating something engaging and potentially entertaining as well that can then be merged with the educational message you're trying to spread. Otherwise people on the other side are gonna focus on spinning their lies in a creative and engaging way and you'll never win people over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

If only more STEM bros recognized communication as requiring expertise, but it falls at least partially into humanities so it gets dismissed a lot, at least in online discussions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

This is why public educators are so important and precious.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago

Time for this old thing again:

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

― Isaac Asimov

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I have thousands of hours across multiple flight sims. I'm confident in my ability to fly a plane. Just don't make me land on an aircraft carrier... I always fuck that shit up in Top Gun on the NES.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Landing on that carrier was damn near impossible, I wouldn't even trust a skilled pilot to pull it off

[–] [email protected] 43 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is obvious bait, but I'll bite a little.

The real experts, that sound the alarm and call us to action, are largely silenced or ignored. These people are not in leadership or positions that hold any meaningful power or influence. Our actual leadership is mostly unqualified and playing team politics and tug of war while nothing gets done and the plane crashes.

Can you blame people for raising their hands and suggesting that the pilots, who are crashing the plane through their apathy and inaction, be removed?

Direct democracy would be a wonderful concept for humanity to explore. And the experts who are on the side of progress should be allowed to spearhead initiatives to solve the various crises our species and planet faces.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The real experts, that sound the alarm and call us to action, are largely silenced or ignored. These people are not in leadership or positions that hold any meaningful power or influence. Our actual leadership is mostly unqualified and playing team politics and tug of war while nothing gets done and the plane crashes.

Yeah, but I'm not talking about people being dissatisfied with political leadership. I'm talking about the widespread rejection of experts themselves.

People voting against evidence-based policy and politicians are just a symptom of that more fundamental issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I swear, this is the only time i hope you don't get what you expect. It would be awful to have these kinda folks among us.

Edit: i mean like the one in the comic. Unless he's a pilot, a good pilot and everyone on that plane knows this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

I’m not sure of the qualifications , but the guy in the comic will definitely get the plane on the ground.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 14 hours ago

I don’t think it’s experts were tired of, but rather arrogance. For me it’s doctors who ignore my symptoms because my test results are within “normal range”. My favorite was the time I had a doctor tell me she thought it was all in my head and I needed to see a therapist.