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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Woow it’s impressive how you all follow the narrative. Here is your bone. Good doggie. My god

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Dunning Kruger

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Has it occurred to you that sometimes there's actual evidence backing up the things you ridicule?

You can go measure the acidity of rain in your back yard if you want.

The sunlight in NZ is far, far harsher than if you go a few thousand kilometres towards the equator, where it should be hotter. We have some of the world's highest rates of skin cancer. Are you implying that crisis actors are faking having skin cancer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You don’t think that listening to subject matter experts is a wise way to determine truth? By all means, enlighten us with a more consistent strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Similar with Y2K


it was only a nothingburger because it was taken seriously, and funded well. But the narrative is sometimes, "yeah lol it was a dud."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (8 children)

The question is, what will happen in 2038 when y2k happens again due to an integer overflow? People are already sounding the alarm but who knows if people will fix all of the systems before it hits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

2038 is approaching super fast and nobody seems to care yet

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Y2K specifically makes no sense though. Any reasonable way of storing a year would use a binary integer of some length (especially when you want to use as little memory as possible). The same goes for manipulations; they are faster, more memory efficient, and easier to implement in binary. With an 8-bit signed integer counting from 1900, the concerning overflows would occur in 2028, not 2000. A base 10 representation would require at least 8 bits to store a two digit number anyway. There is no advantage to a base 10 representation, and there never has been. For Y2K to have been anything more significant than a text formatting issue, a whole lot of programmers would have had to go out of their way to be really, really bad at their jobs. Also, usage of dates beyond 2000 would have increased gradually for decades leading up to it, so the idea it would be any sort of sudden catastrophe is absurd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

a whole lot of programmers would have had to go out of their way to be really, really bad at their jobs.

You don't spend much time around them, do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You do realize that "counting from 1900" meant storing only the last two digits and just hardcoding the programs to print"19" in front of it in those days? At best, an overflow would lead to 19100, 1910 or 1900, depending on the print routines.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

And then there is PIC 99 in Cobol. In modern languages, it makes no sense, but there is still a lot of really old code around and not everything is twos complement, especially if you do not need the efficiency in memory and calculations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The issue wasn't using the dates. The issue was the computer believing it was now on those dates.

I'm going to assume you aren't old enough to remember, but the "only two digits to represent the year" issue predates computers. Lots of paper forms just gave two digits. And a lot of early computer work was just digitising paper forms.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

“Lol Elon rocket go boom, science isn’t real” is also happening

Stupid people just think they’re the smartest ones in the room now

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

All this hysteria over nuclear weapons is overblown. We've known how to build them for 75 years yet there hasn't been a single one detonated on inhabited American soil. They're harmless

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You even dropped a few accidentally and nothing happened! Complete duds these things really

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wtf was that dumbest posting about? He never learned about CFCs in 8th grade high school? Embarrassing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Matt Walsh is literally the dumbest person on the planet. Most of the people involved with The Daily Wire are cynical little freaks playing a part, Walsh is just a moron.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

“Whatever happened with the ozone layer panic, if scientists are so smart?”

We listened to the scientists, and the problem went away.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Didn't go away, just stopped getting worse at an alarming rate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

No, also the massive SO2 that Mt Pinatubo put into the atmosphere slowly went away. And the CFCs.

Pinatubo created more sulfur emissions during its eruption than 10 years of all human coal burning.

And also on top of that we were also wrecking the Ozone.

Nature can always make our mistakes much much worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the hole above Australia close again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a kiwi, the amount of sunburn I get every summer would imply it hasn't.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but I'm pretty sure that's just cause the sun is upside down over there or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Down there??? The Earth isn't flat, you say??

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Good god this psychopath needs to be in hospice, drugged out of their mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This has since been determined to have tack on benefits in the fight against the climate crisis as well, it's halved the potential growth in global average temperatures by 2100, which cannot be overstated in just how fantastic that is.

We went from everyone being baked alive and having 20 kinds of skin cancer to boot to merely dealing with catastrophic climate change and society changing people migrations the likes of which haven't been documented since the successive eras of steppe invasions into Europe, China, India, and the Middle East.

Out of the fire and into the frying pan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I might just be drunk, but that was a very poetic turn of phrase.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imagine that... Believing what scientists say? Who does that?

Grinds teeth and silently screams inside his head

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Same same 😔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Matt Walsh be like "What is an Ozone?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Must be near the R-Zone.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There were goddamn Nickelodeon phone-a-thons where you pledged to not use cfc products. This shit was serious.

Edit: I just remembered ,they talked about how bad the sun was for kids in Australia, or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Australia and New Zealand do not fuck about with sun safety. Even with the improvements in the ozone layer, our skin cancer rates are still way higher than the rest of the world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

New Zealand do not fuck about with sun safety.

Except we were kicking the can with sun screen regulation until 2022.

https://comcom.govt.nz/business/your-obligations-as-a-business/product-safety-standards/sunscreen

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2022/0004/latest/whole.html

Until this law, sun screen lotion didn't have to prove that they actually provided the SPF that they claimed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah I lived in Auckland for a bit, they don't care as much about sunscreen. More sun safety conscious than Pacific Northwesterners in my experience, but probably closer to that group than myself as a fair-skinned Aussie that's used to getting burnt after just sitting outside in the shade for awhile

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I literally had this exact exchange with someone last year, when they tried to cast doubt on global warming by comparing it to the ozone. Another person did the same , using acid rain, and I pointed out that the northeast sued the shit out of the Midwest until they cut that shit with the coal fire power plants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Conservative Party led Canadian Government and the Regan-era Republican US Government started working on the US-Canada Air Quality Agreement, which was signed by the George H.W. Bush administration into law in the US (and the Brian Mulroney led Government of Canada).

That’s right — two Conservative governments identified a problem, listened to their scientists, and enacted a solution to acid rain. And now the problem has virtually disappeared.

Oh how low Conservatives have fallen on both sides of the border since those days.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

#transcription

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog

Remember when they spent years telling us to panic over the hole in the ozone layer and then suddenly just stopped talking about it and nobody ever mentioned the ozone layer

Derek Thompson
@DKThomp

What happened is scientists discovered chlorofluorocarbons were bad for the ozone, countries believed them, the Montreal Protocol was signed, and CFC use fell by 99.7%,l eading to the stabilization of the ozone layer, perhaps the greatest example of global cooperation in history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you go around carving stairs into ramps, too?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I have never heard this phrase before but it is absolutely brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Not everyone can, dipshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure what your intent was, but you’re coming off as “I don’t want online spaces to be welcoming to people who are visually impaired.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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