We shouldn't have kings, and we shouldn't have the unelected group of oligarchs that are SCOTUS
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If you didn't vote, this is what you voted for.
Wake the fug up! Chug one last beer, turn off that damn "Very Special 'America's Got Talent'," and look around you. See that the United States of America that we knew, is gone. Dictatorship is the new reality.
Then figure out what the hell you do from here, because your life WILL change. Not this year and maybe not next year. But darkness is coming.
Law society should be pulling somebody's license here...
Lol illegally
I heard trump is illegal
Only the breathing part.
Insert "That's not how this works!" meme
Everything I don’t like is ILLEGAL because IM KING
I am pretty sure it's the Supreme Court that decides what is legal and what is illegal in the United States of America, not "lawyer Mike Davis."
Tfg is just aching for people to start murdering people who stand up to him.
Illegal... You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Sadly, they aren’t misusing the words because they’re stupid. They’re misusing the words because when the words are applied to them, they can claim the words are meaningless. Just like they did with all the accusations about Hillary in his first term, about Biden during Biden’s presidency, and now about anyone else.
Everything the Supreme Court orders is "legal", by definition. That's what Supreme means. They have taken up the duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. There is no further appeal.
But they don't make law. Only rule on what is lawful. Congress can change the rules at any time and the SCOTUS would be required to uphold it.
In a functioning democracy...
SCOTUS has been effectively making laws for a while. Interracial marriage is legal because of a SCOTUS ruling. Gay marriage is legal because of a SCOTUS ruling. Abortion was legal because of a SCOTUS ruling.
These are all legal in Canada because parliament passed laws making them legal, and not because of Supreme Court rulings. I get the sense that the US Congress is so bad at passing any laws whatsoever that the only time laws change is when SCOTUS changes them.
Fun fact, abortion is only legal because of a supreme Court ruling in Canada.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/sexual-health/abortion-canada.html
Abortion became legal in Canada through the Criminal Law Amendment Act, passed in 1969. At that time, abortions could take place in hospitals, but only if a 3-doctor committee determined that the pregnancy posed a danger to the parent's health. In 1988, the Supreme Court of Canada held that the Criminal Code provisions restricting abortion were unconstitutional and struck them down.
Abortion was legal with restrictions. The Supreme Court only removed the restrictions.
We're fucking terrible at passing any good laws. I really think being able to add riders to a bill is the biggest reason for this.
Congress would need a constitutional amendment in this case, though in state supreme courts you are generally correct.
that's not completely true considering the presidential immunity ruling was completely made up out of whole cloth and not existing legislation.
But then who says what the statutes that Congress passed mean...?
In this case, the court has determined that notices in English only, that give a 24 hour deadline, with no information about how to contact an attorney, are illegal. That amount of notice is not due process as guaranteed by the 5th amendment of the Constitution.
The constitution overrides all parts of federal law, including the Alien Enemies Act. There is no power to suspend the constitution here. Not even a war power. The constitution applies to the plaintiffs in this case, because they are in the territory of the United States. Full stop.
The government has argued to the court, without citing any specific clause of the constitution, that the President enjoys broad "war powers" that prevent the court from looking into any aspect of what the administration is doing here. The court has clearly rejected that argument* with respect to the 5th amendment concerns.
So that is what the law is, and that's what the law is not. That's a final decision.
*The court has not decided yet on whether the government can use this reasoning to block any interpretation of the meaning of the words "invasion" or "predatory incursion." The lower courts that have ruled are something like 4 or 5 to 1, on the side that the judiciary can interpret those words.
EDIT: Actually, I think the one judge that ruled for the AEA proclamation did so by interpreting "invasion" by looking it up in a dictionary. She just used a modern dictionary, while the others have been using 1798 dictionaries.
"I'm not illegal, you're illegal!"
Still thinking like an 8-year-old.
I’m definitely dumber because I have to hear what Trump says.
More like Used Car Lot Hitler.
I just need to check. Is Chevy Chase, Maryland named after the comedian or the other way around?
Other way ....he took the name from the town
From Wikipedia:
The name is derived from Cheivy Chace, the name of the land patented to Colonel Joseph Belt from Charles Calvert, 5th Baron Baltimore, on July 10, 1725. It has historic associations with a 1388 chevauchée, a French word describing a border raid, fought by Lord Percy of England and Earl Douglas of Scotland over hunting grounds, or a "chace", in the Cheviot Hills of Northumberland and Otterburn. The battle was memorialized in "The Ballad of Chevy Chase".
Chevy Chase [the actor] was named for his adoptive grandfather, Cornelius, while the nickname "Chevy" was bestowed by his grandmother from the medieval English ballad "The Ballad of Chevy Chase". As a descendant of the Scottish Clan Douglas, she thought the name appropriate.
Possible, his family called him Chevy short for Cornelius. Might have been a knowing joke on their part but ostensibly there is no connection.
Someone please explain to me how Chevy is short for Cornelius.
Not sure but something like Bob for Robert or Dick for Richard.
He also gets called Dick a fair bit in Hollywood circles I believe.
You've never driven a Cornelius Tahoe?
That really sounds like a sex act you'd have to pay double for
"I'm here for the... Cornelius."
Pats fanny pack full of ripe jelly beans
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Right this way Mr. Chase, do you want the ostrich agitated or painted today?
And the poll found 85 percent of Americans believe that if the Supreme Court rules against the Trump administration on a policy or executive action, the Trump administration should follow the court’s ruling.
So 15% want Trump to go full dictator and just ignore the Supreme Court and do whatever he wants? I wish I could say I was surprised.
I'm surprised it's not higher given his popularity with 30% of the population. I would have expected about that amount.
Give the propaganda time to work. They’ll come around. Trump is these people’s whole identities, once he has a chance to tell them what to think, they’ll change their minds.
why anyone thinks this man is a leader amazes me
It's embarrassing
People don't just "think" anymore
We are bred and raised the way we think by design through pollution, toxic media cultures, stagnated wages, lack of healthcare, underfunded education, and the list goes on
When your only purpose is your nutsack, every dick is a leader.
That is brilliant. Thank you. I am stealing this.