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[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Number 1 by far is knowing how to separate your opinions from your identity.

I've been thinking about this for years and I can't shake the thought that identity politics is the root of most major problems in western society (esp. US). It means people interpret criticism of their opinions as personal attacks instead. This overblown defensive reaction leads to turning around and conflating the opinions of others with their worth as human beings.

Yes, there some truth to that. If you hold hateful & bigoted opinions, I would say that makes you a shit person. But you're not necessarily condemned to that forever, because opinions can potentially change. This is tied in with Karl Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance", i.e. ideas should be tolerated unless they themselves are so intolerant as to undermine the wider marketplace of ideas.

When we equate (potentially temporary) opinions of others with immutable value, that's what leads to dehumanizing them and taking away their fundamental rights. And as has always been the case throughout history, the burden falls primarily on vulnerable groups (immigrants, ethnic or social minorities, children and the elderly, etc).

People need to understand that YOU ARE NOT YOUR OPINION. Others can and should criticize your opinions, but that doesn't mean they are attacking you personally. Defend the opinions, but don't turn around and go ad-hominem in response. And for fuck's sake, unless an opinion is so abhorrent or intolerant that it threatens someone else's existence (e.g. Nazis), you don't get to take away the holder's rights to citizenship, food, shelter, healthcare, etc.

EDIT: And yes I do consider this a skill that people have to learn. I think most should be capable by maybe... age 7.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say the ability to write. My Prof would lose her mind if she saw Lemmy.

[–] CptHacke@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Reading a map.

GPS is great & all, but I know people that if you put a paper map in front of them they're still lost because they can't correlate the map with reality.

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[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago

searching for things in the internet.

i think LLM/PISS now has a bigger place because people dunno what to look for / what they want specifically.

there's some legit use for LLMs, but to help you 'search' feels like you're giving away some freedom for an unknown set of weighted biases.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

People have said “critical thinking”. I agree, but we can be more specific than that:

  • Formal logic to think clearly
  • Relational frame training to think fluidly
  • Human cognitive bias awareness and mitigation strategies to avoid magical thinking or otherwise systematic cognitive errors
  • Discourse Analysis to be critical of any message https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiaYBVAEUk&pp=
  • Mindfulness and acceptance skills to engage with what our thoughts and body tell us, regardless of whether it’s painful or difficult
  • Visible Thinking Routines to make thinking and communication with others easier
  • Research design (Joseph A. Maxwell) and system design (How to Design Programs) to seek information critically and how to systematically tackle challenges
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

This covers so many other things.

My usual specific go-to is how to search the internet for things. But not knowing how to search for hyper-specific things is the symptom of a lack of critical thinking skills.

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[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Working with your hands and tools. It's amazing how far it can take you and how much money you can make and/or save by DIY'ing things around your home with some basic skills. Like there are people that will pay $100 for something easy like mounting a TV when it's a few minutes of finding studs and screwing down the bracket.

Then as things progress and you get more comfortable, you can start helping friends and doing side work. I've been doing industrial electrical for 10 years now, I'm gonna be re-wiring a whole house from the ground up in July

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The ability to process information. It seems like the reason need AI to summarize different things is because they never learned how to do it themselves.

[–] creamlike504@jlai.lu 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think our skill to process information has natural limits, which were overwhelmed decades ago by the social media firehose and a breakdown of information-filtering infrastructure.

an average edition of a newspaper the size of The Times already contains more information about the world than a person in the 17th Century was likely to come across in a lifetime. (Wurman, Information Anxiety)

That was back in 1989. We're now 30 years later with an internet supercharged by predatory algorithms.

And we can't filter all of it without either completely withdrawing from the world entirely or spending months learning why and how to filter it ourselves.

We have had information overload in some form or another since the 1500s. What is changing now is the filters we use for the most of the 1500 period are breaking, and designing new filters doesn’t mean simply updating the old filters. They have broken for structural reasons, not for service reasons. (Shirky, It's Not Information Overload. It’s Filter Failure)

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps, but I'm talking about are problems within human limits. For example, take information from 5 different sources to synthesize an answer to a question.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Changing tires or oil on a car.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of cars don't include a spare tire anymore.

Last couple times I looked, it was more expensive to buy the oil and filter than to go to my local mechanic to get an oil change.

I appreciate that it's good to know how to do these things, but it really seems like there's no reason most people need to actually do them with a current model year vehicle.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Cooking. I don't mean heating up prepared food. I mean taking raw produce, spices, herbs, and starches to make your own food. Doesn't need to be extravagant. Start with an omelette or maybe properly made scrambled eggs. Move on to other "easy" dishes like grilled cheese sandwiches and spaghetti. I am constantly amazed when I hear fully grown adults saying shit like, "I could never make anything like Beef Wellington." Yes you can, just try and fail a few times!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's great to learn because after a while you can start experimenting and making things you don't have a recipe for. I kinda have a "memory" for tastes so I can just think about how things might go together so I just kinda make up dishes now. I mean I'm sure I'm not making something unique, but it's all without a recipe. Or if you are lazy and are craving something you can just make it instead of having to go out lol I've made many "cakes" because I was craving something sweet but didn't have anything around just by knowing how it's done having done it before.

[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

I always keep some easy prep boxed meals or whatever on hand for when I'm feeling really lazy.

Use those as a base and spruce them up with spices, veggies, meats, or even just swapping out one thing on the instructions for another to give some added richness or texture.

Half from scratch can be just as good as from scratch, especially when you're tired and hungry AF and you'll still have the satisfaction of making the dish "your own".

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Having a basic idea of how a car/engine works. Most people waste so much money on basic repairs they could just do themselves. Feels like majority of folks couldn't even put on their spare tire. Plus, mechanic is job that less and less people are willing to do over time so the cost of their labour will only keep getting worse

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm like a few year older the driving age and I don't even have a driver's license 💀

I feel like I'm being called out 🥲

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[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, this isn’t helped by the odd proprietary bolt patterns and specialty OBD communications required by some brands.

My wifes car has a bad pcv system, turns out it’s built into the valve cover and intake manifold so instead of unbolting a part and putting the new one on I have to take apart a heafty amount of the engine to fix what should be a basic repair.

I drive a golf and can’t even change my battery without updating my ecu to readapt to the new battery. If I don’t it starts frying sensors and the alternator because of voltage irregularities. Have to have the $80 dongle with the yearly subscription to access the necessary code input.

Car companies over the past decade have built cars that are harder and harder to maintain yourself. I don’t blame people for not knowing how to do some of the basic stuff when that basic stuff has become more complex, expensive, and unreasonably difficult for the layman to parse.

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This only applies if having a car is a requirement in your city/country tho. Nothing could be more useless for me than car knowledge.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Basic sewing

Also empathy

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 5 points 3 weeks ago

Basic math. I don't talk about solving differential equation. But if you don't want to get scammed you need to understand what's a 10% discount, how do interest work, price per kg, or price per m^2

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Understand and knowledge that they are not an island. That the things they do, even if they believe it only affects them, affects those around them.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

media literacy

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Driving. Most people know how to operate a vehicle, but a lot don’t know how to actually drive properly.

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[–] Justdaveisfine@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Patience.

I've taken up several hobbies (game dev, gardening, woodworking, etc) where results aren't always well seen until weeks, months or even years after starting a project.

Everyone seems too interested in getting results fast and now, and the world seems all too keen to sell you something to try and make that happen.

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Binary search, there are so many instances where problems in life can be solved by eliminating half of a given set repeatedly.

Blender broken? There are only so many things that can go wrong, analyze the situation and try to find something that cuts your problem in half.

  1. Is the light on? It’s not electricity and that's a huge chunk of what makes a blender work.
  2. Light not on? Well now you've eliminated (temporarily) mechanical systems and electrical remains. Further splitting that part of the blender means either house power or internal blender power, check the outlet with another machine

This approach involves further splitting the problem into 2 as evenly as possible each time. It doesn’t make sense to whip out the multimeter if the on light isn't shining, you don't need to check on your house's breakers if the light is on, etc.

This system works for troubleshooting almost anything, all you have to do is find chokepoints and identify sections of your target. Toilet not flushing, faucet not on, car not starting, neck pain, allergies, it's almost harder to think of something it doesn't apply to.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I kind of think that that should go into core curriculum in school, because it's such a mechanical process, yet people just need to figure it out on their own.

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