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this post was submitted on 09 May 2025
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Therapists are required to break confidentiality if they suspect child abuse. The church thinks it is above secular law and only answers to God, not to mention the protection it offers to its own child abusers. It's complete nonsense and a good example of why religious tolerance has limits.
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The U.S. Department of Justice said it is investigating whether the law infringes on First Amendment religious protections.
Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.
Oh, are we going to play that game?
Why does the Catholic Church have to be so fucking evil?
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Just make a new tax called the "Molestation Enablers Tax" that all institutions will pay if they opt out of reporting.
Kinda torn on this one. Confessional is kind of like a safe space — like talking to your therapist or a lawyer. It doesn’t help that the Catholic Church is probably the biggest cabal of pedophiles on earth. But, if they weren’t there would be an argument.
There is no absolute confidentiality even with therapists and lawyers, they're both obligated to report anything said to them that they believe indicates you're planning to commit a crime or do harm to yourself or others. You can't just walk into your lawyers office and go "so I was molesting this eight year old" and expect them not to report that.
In the US there isn't but as far as I can tell, over here in Germany lawyers and doctors are not permitted to report past crimes. The damage has been done and there is no harm to prevent anymore, as such keeping confidentiality has a higher priority than the state's desire to prosecute crimes.
Even if these groups become aware of future planned crimes, they are not obligated to report anything if they genuinely attempt to prevent the person from comitting the crime (except for murder, manslaughter, kidnapping/taking hostages, genocide or war crimes).
How does the nonexistant confidentiality of lawyers prevent them from deciding to stop being your lawyer and become a witness against you? I.e. you are accused of a crime, admit said crime to your lawyer, your lawyer then becomes a witness stating you admitted to the crime.
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Pedophiles protecting pedophiles? Who would have thunk!
We'll kick you out of our kiddy diddler club
Is quite the threat
It means the law works.
If they truly believe in their faith, then they will serve their sentences faithfully, as a show if their devotion to their god.
Protecting child abuse should have a cost regardless of the motivation.
requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities
So they aren't blatantly evil at least. Confessions remaining private is the foundation of how they work. Either way, the church loses on this one.
Client-therapist privilege is foundational to how therapy works, but most states have laws saying a therapist must report admissions of abuse. I don't see doctors rallying against those laws.
Still blatantly evil. Telling someone your crimes in confidence shouldn't be a get out of jail free card.
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Priest: I’d like to report child abuse because that’s the law. Church: You’re out! Go to hell, dickbag.