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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The directive came from the Archidiocese of Seattle, not (apparently) the Vatican. This archdiocese has been at the center of the scandal that prompted the law, so it looks like the archbishop may be doubling down on the cover-up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Time to start shutting 'em down and seizing assets, in that case.

Or Washington State should modify the law to protect the anonymity of priests who comply.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This isn’t really news. This has always been their stance. Priests will always urge the person to turn them self in for true repentance but they won’t ever break the confidentiality of confession.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Take away their tax exempt status and tax them as the huge profitable businesses that they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

The legit response. And continue to arrest members of this self aggrandized gang for the crimes they commit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair and if we consider Catholic lore and dogma technically any kind of breach of the confessional seal is a major breach in Catholic law or whatever. So I understand this from a faith based perspective.

On the other hand, I'm an atheist so fuck the confessional seal and report major crimes. Especially fucking child abuse! Any kind of child abuse!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Other professions that hear personal information, such as psychologists and lawyers, are subject to mandatory reporting requirements, generally when people's lives, either the client or members of the public, are endangered by not reporting.

We make the laws, the Catholic Church is subject to them, regardless of what the reactionary and corrupt Supreme Court might claim.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Catholics and all christians by extension are also bound to do good and protect those who can't defend themselves.

I'm going to risk that denouncing and delivering to secular authoroties those who practice one of the most heinous acts we can think of falls under that responsibility.

Or because the church has lost its power to deliver "justice" of their accord (read inquisition and the follow up torture and mutilation) it has also lost the will to persecute evil deeds?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The confessional is one of the world's most productive intelligence-gathering systems. And it wasn't part of the earliest forms of Christianity-- there's no evidence it was used prior to Constantine. Even when it was first introduced, it was more of an annual thing connected to Lent.

The modern system grew in the middle ages because of its revenue-generating possibilities: the confession -> penance -> absolution pipeline included the possibliity of gaining forgiveness by donating large sums to the Church (remember indulgences?). Nice little earner, that. And it remains a rich source of material to blackmail Catholics who would otherwise do things that are inconvenient to the church hierarchy.

I've phrased this in such a way as to make it clear that it's not just about pedophilia. The Church commits other crimes too (remember the financial entanglement with the Mafia that was exposed during the Banco Ambrosiano scandal?) and also seeks (and uses) other forms of political leverage to protect and expand its power. And they don't want to be scrutinized for fraud or influence-peddling any more than they do for protecting pedos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

I like your point of view but that's an ever dwindling information base. Most catholics don't go to confession and a good portion of humans on this rock isn't one.

But besides that, spot on.

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