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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/63424412

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I just wish Japan didn't drive on the wrong side of the road

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Had a coworker looking into importing these. He could make a fair profit and make people very happy, plus he had the capital to get going just off his salary. No idea where he left off on that, but I'd buy one quick.

Now I'm looking at how to get one. A 4WD would replace almost everything I use my 2WD 2004 F150 for, and a trailer hitch would get the rest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was thinking about importing something like that back when I had money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

One day, me too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Truck size growth is driven at least partially, if not mainly, by gas mileage regulations, where you can have lower gas mileage on larger vehicles, an allowance that was made to accommodate work vehicles. So people who want a powerful vehicle are forced to go bigger. If these regulations were relaxed or eliminated, we would have much smaller but still powerful trucks. I'd be interested in something like that...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or we could just tighten the regulations on large vehicles, rather than removing the whole system which is a net good over all.

Best not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well it doesn't look like a net good right now. We have a million oversized trucks everywhere. We could have the same number of trucks, but smaller, for the same or less gas consumption. It would also be less dangerous to pedestrians and easier on the roads. Less tire wear and tear, and so on.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Your reasoning is lacking.

You're "forced" to go bigger, because car manufacturers are too greedy. The big pickups and SUVs are basically classified as commercial trucks, so the regulations are much looser when it comes to emissions and safety. Which make them cheaper to produce.

Car companies are more than capable of making powerful small cars under current regulations and even stricter ones, but that has a smaller profit margin. That's why they are fighting this, they want to keep their margins and not have to compete with these cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Not sure I see the connection between margin and truck size.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Just make those who want to get lower taxes for driving "commercial use" vehicles bring clear evidence of commercial use.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The guys on the YouTube channel MightyCarMods love these little trucks

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

I love living in a country where businesses make the rules.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We already drive Japanese cars on the roads. Why can’t we drive small ones?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Cause its piracy against cuck trucks. Having a small, effecient vehicle that is more practical, has more cargo space and capacity and is cheaper is simply unamerican.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

It's the child-slayer emotional support trucks that can't see the damn road ahead of themselves that are broadly unsafe vehicles. I had an arrogant boss tell me "maybe unsafe for you, but I'll crush the other guy and be fine!"

Thus, in the future, all cars will be ten tons minimum, and you drive by feeling the impacts as you hit stuff bumping around the neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe those car manufacturers should get with the kei truck program instead of fighting it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

These things get used everywhere in the world. Used to have a yellow one on a farm. Tough, super cheap, and reliable hauler around the property. It got used more than the main 4×4s which were more for long distance off-roading in remote parts of the property where terrain gets nuts.

You could get a fleet of these for the price of an American "truck". And that means US car companies start losing profit from their useless overpriced can+trays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would guess it's hard to break parts on them since they're so light?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, exactly. Plus the mechanical simplicity means much fewer things fail anyway. Common repairs take minutes (suspension, servicing, electrics, etc.), are very simple, and very cheap. It's exactly what you want out of a workhorse vehicle. They've been so cleverly thought out because Japanese manufacturers had to be with KEI designs. Plus plemty come 4×4 and are very capable on soft terrain due to the lightness.

They're just so insanely practical and affordable. Everyone loves them. Everyone loves a big V8 turbo diesel that never gets stuck and can haul anything, but they're inferior mechanically and economically for most day-to-day run around jobs around the property.

I'm sure these will start flooding into the US agriculture industry if they're able to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

The university in my town has a fleet of them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They get insane margins on those big payment princesses. For a lot of US automakers that’s what’s keeping them above water.

The market shifting towards small affordable utility vehicles is their worst nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Could you imagine if the US made kei truck production a utility?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Utility, in the context of the automobile market, is a class of vehicles, hence why Australians call pickups “utes”.

Kai trucks count as utility vehicles, as do american pickup trucks.

Although, realistically, most pickup trucks sold In the US would better be described as “premium” or “luxury” vehicles given that most people buying them are not using them for off roading, hauling or towing, but rather as “life style” vehicles and status symbols.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago

Nonsense! They want to sell you an $80,000 car. Not a $10,000 car.