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An AI avatar made to look and sound like the likeness of a man who was killed in a road rage incident addressed the court and the man who killed him: “To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me, it is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances,” the AI avatar of Christopher Pelkey said. “In another life we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness and a God who forgives. I still do.”

It was the first time the AI avatar of a victim—in this case, a dead man—has ever addressed a court, and it raises many questions about the use of this type of technology in future court proceedings. 

The avatar was made by Pelkey’s sister, Stacey Wales. Wales tells 404 Media that her husband, Pelkey’s brother-in-law, recoiled when she told him about the idea. “He told me, ‘Stacey, you’re asking a lot.’”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty fucked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

This will end up causing the murderer to get out on appeal, I guarantee it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/judicialBio.asp?jdgID=505&jdgUSID=12716

It would be a shame if publicly known Todd Lang was reported over and over again for his bias.

https://www.azcourts.gov/azcjc <<<<<<

(The form is a pain)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, this is super distasteful and manipulative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel the defense should have insisted on having their own ai of jesus talk about forgiveness.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks like I'll have to pre write a testimony for if/when someone kills me and my sister wants to have AI talk for me.

"Hey fuck head who killed me, you're a fucking pussy!

Ooooo look at me I used a (insert weapon ) like a little bitch

I'm gonna haunt your ass and focus the entirety of my spectral energy on making sure your dumbass life sucks in there.

Also, suck a dick dumb cunt, I'm poor, you got nothing but jail for being a useless little bitch baby.

Catch ya real soon, like reeeeeeeeaaaaaaal soon."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Your honor, although the prosecution has indeed depicted my client as the pathetic soy virgin in exhibit A, meme 4, please watch this 7 episode TV drama mini series that the prosecution wrote and produced for this very case before making your judgement."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If anyone ever did this with my likeness after death, even with good intentions, i would haunt the fuck out of them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

You can create an AI avatar before your death that will haunt them on your behalf.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wales tells 404 Media that her husband, ~~Pelkey’s brother-in-law,~~ recoiled when she told him about the idea.

Edited to remove utterly extraneous information that added absolutely nothing of value or clarity to the sentence. This is her husband, the victim was her brother. We already know her husband is the victims brother -in-law. That's how that works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's a weird bit of writing. It's completely unnecessary information that adds nothing to the sentence. I don't know if it's the case, but this is like a micro-aggression where the author felt the need to add more info about the man instead of the woman.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This was not testimony. It was part of the victim impact statement and was scripted by his sister. AI was only used to recreate the voice and visage. I am usually a fan of 404 Media, but that should be explicitly stated.

The use of the word “testimony” is not entirely accurate in the sense that that term is used in court.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

From NPR:

…using several AI tools, Wales' husband and Yentzer managed to create a convincing video using about a 4.5-minute-video of Pelkey, his funeral photo and a script that Wales prepared

Emphasis mine.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

AI should absolutely never be allowed in court. Defense is probably stoked about this because it's obviously a mistrial. Judge should be reprimanded for allowing that shit

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was after the verdict of the trial. This was displayed during the sentencing hearing where family members get to state how the death affected them. It's still fucked up, but to be clear it wasn't used during the trial.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only in usa. What an embarrassing circus.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wtaf... regardless of how well he was known by his family, this is the glorified version of a video resumé created by someone else, not the actual person – so it should be accepted as that: someone else's testimony.

It's not even a Reynolds' beta-level simulation.

Why the judge accepted is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Preface: This does not belong in a courtroom. These were not his words. These were words that someone else wrote, and then put into the mouth of a very realistic puppet of him.

This was a victim impact statement, which I think comes after sentencing. In that case, it wouldn't have had an impact on sentencing, but I still feel quite strongly that this kind of misrepresentation has no place in a court.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

This was shown before the sentencing. The judge referenced it explicitly in their sentencing as a reason to apply leniency.

From a comment above:

Here's what the judge had to say:

“I loved that AI, and thank you for that. As angry as you are, and as justifiably angry as the family is, I heard the forgiveness, and I know Mr. Horcasitas could appreciate it, but so did I,” Lang said immediately before sentencing Horcasitas. “I love the beauty in what Christopher, and I call him Christopher—I always call people by their last names, it’s a formality of the court—but I feel like calling him Christopher as we’ve gotten to know him today. I feel that that was genuine, because obviously the forgiveness of Mr. Horcasitas reflects the character I heard about today. But it also says something about the family, because you told me how angry you were, and you demanded the maximum sentence. And even though that’s what you wanted, you allowed Chris to speak from his heart as you saw it. I didn’t hear him asking for the maximum sentence.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh right, I forgot about that. Then it's just wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 597 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

This isn't a message from the victim. This is a message from his sister using his image as a way to increase the impact of her statement in court.

This is a bad thing, this is manipulating the court with a false and confusing message.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There were videos shown during the trial that Stacey said were deeply difficult to sit through. “Videos of Chris literally being blown away with a bullet through his chest, going in the street, falling backward. We saw these items over and over and over,” she said. “And we were instructed: don’t you gasp and don’t you cry and do not make a scene, because that can cause a mistrial.”

“Our goal was to make the judge cry. Our goal was to bring Chris to life and to humanize him,” she said.

If gasping at video of real events is grounds for a mistrial, then so is fabricated statements intended to emotionally manipulate the court. It's ludicrous that this was allowed and honestly is grounds to disbar the judge. If he allows AI nonsense like this, then his courtroom can not be relied upon for fair trials.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Just to be clear, they were fully transparent about it:

“Hello, just to be clear for everyone seeing this, I am a version of Chris Pelkey recreated through AI that uses my picture and my voice profile,” the stilted avatar says. “I was able to be digitally regenerated to share with you today. Here is insight into who I actually was in real life.”

However, I think the following is somewhat misleading:

The video goes back to the AI avatar. “I would like to make my own impact statement,” the avatar says.

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. It seems that the motivation was genuine compassion from the victim's family, and a desire to honestly represent victim to the best of their ability. But ultimately, it's still the victim's sister's impact statement, not his.

Here's what the judge had to say:

“I loved that AI, and thank you for that. As angry as you are, and as justifiably angry as the family is, I heard the forgiveness, and I know Mr. Horcasitas could appreciate it, but so did I,” Lang said immediately before sentencing Horcasitas. “I love the beauty in what Christopher, and I call him Christopher—I always call people by their last names, it’s a formality of the court—but I feel like calling him Christopher as we’ve gotten to know him today. I feel that that was genuine, because obviously the forgiveness of Mr. Horcasitas reflects the character I heard about today. But it also says something about the family, because you told me how angry you were, and you demanded the maximum sentence. And even though that’s what you wanted, you allowed Chris to speak from his heart as you saw it. I didn’t hear him asking for the maximum sentence.”

I am concerned that it could set a precedent for misuse, though. The whole thing seems like very grey to me. I'd suggest everyone read the whole article before passing judgement.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah a fiction has no place in a courtroom. If we can upload maybe we can revisit but this is just stupid.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like a great way to provide the defendant with a great reason to appeal

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I’d really like to hope that this is a one off boomer brained judge and the precedent set is this was as stupid an idea as it gets, but every time I think shot can’t get dumber…

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

The worse is everybody knows, including the judge, but they still chose to accept it.

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