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So there's this thing people do, it's harmless enough, but it also sort of hints at a completely incoherent style of thinking. It is absolutely unfair to judge people by random shit they write casually, after all I write like 3 geeked out baboons stacked atop one and other and yet I am a noble and refined rat.

Nonetheless I'm a judgy shit so I do. Ok so the thing? It's when people use a quote or situation from fiction as a predictor of what will happen in reality. A concrete example from earlier today paraphrased:

p1: I think blah blah thing will happen

p2: Ah but remember men in black? a person is reasonable, people are dumb panicky animals

me: teakettle noises

The causality is utterly confused, MiB cannot be used as evidence, it is written that way because the writer wanted a character to say that. It's possible a writer wanted a character to say that because the writer believed it to be true, but it's also possible that it was included for many other reasons.

screeeeeeeeeee

Anyway, share your thoughts. Also your own ridiculous rhetoric irritations.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nah you’re right tho. It’s also when people use idioms as logic. “time is money therefore money is time” type shit. straight up reality detachment

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not only is it childish, but Terry Pratchett said the same thing, but better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

"We should do thing from Starship Troopers because in the book it totally works!"

It works because Heinlein believed it would work, not because it would work that way in reality!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I knew a person that quoted that MiB line all the time and I always wanted to call them out on that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Live vicariously through me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure everyone's encountered some variation 'socialism good, communism bad remember animal farm', heard that one at work last week but was on the phone and could't do anything but make a face. The poor Murkkkian countrymen wouldn't know communism from any other -ism if it clapped both cheeks and gave them a copy of Wage Labor and Capital.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I find it funny someone would turn to MiB for this instead of something like groupthink or any of the other social psych constructs that attempt to explain group behaviors. Literally a century of research into this kind of shit (not all of it is very useful)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

I try to reach further for examples when I'm talking about stuff specifically so I don't just resort to "this is like blideo gaem" but sometimes it's hard lol

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is like that time morbius said "It's morbin time!" and morbed all over the place

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

to this day I cannot believe they let that much morb appear on screen at once - truly grotesque

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

p2: Ah but remember men in black? a person is reasonable, people are dumb panicky animals

And liberals will tell you with a straight face that they aren't propagandized.

Once had an argument with a guy who tried to demonstrate that communism is bad using the example of Lois Lowry's The Giver. When I pointed out the absurdity of trying to use a children's fiction book to prove your enemies wrong, he fixated on the "children's" part and started throwing out titles like 1984 and Atlas Shrugged.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Same people who mock the religious people for believing “fictional stories.”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

-so you are a secret alien is what you are saying?

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