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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't know how anyone can be optimistic about this economy. This isn't death by a million little cuts. we are headed for an unprecedented economic depression.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The guillotine got applied to the economy instead of the... Proper target...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

This ain’t nazi sympathizing Reddit bro - you’re allowed to say that a treasonous Russian asset in our government deserves to be executed by guillotine, even if somehow that treasonous Russian asset is the president.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time for the under the table economy to rise sgain

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Gotta pay for that birthday parade somehow

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Roughly 2.9 million people who have student loans are age 62 or older. I'm very curious as to how many in that demographic are within this defaulted status. Mostly because any change in social security benefits for a retiree is life altering and if any significant portion of that group that's defaulted is also this 62 or older group, the changes this will have a massive impact on the population. Retirees that get caught into money troubles not only brings them down, but usually the family that ultimately has to catch them from completely falling through the cracks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this affects retirees i hope they choose to protest with open carry in front of government buildings rather than letting themselves get homeless and starved to death.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Cant do that in a lot of states. CT, California, ny, and others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What are they gonna do? Shoot at the armed people who have nothing to loose as they are destined to loose everything anyways?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is going to be so great for the economy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

An American hero in the making. /s

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

When is Trump going to pay his debts for defamation and fraud he has been found guilty or liable for? How about Trump pays back all the debts erased by his six bankruptcies? If he gained money through fraud, what about the taxes he evaded?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I saw forgive his debt in exchange for being skinned alive.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

When you make him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, Obama!

[–] [email protected] 238 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The US total population is about 340 million. Those 18 and older is about 254 million.

With 5.3 million defaulted, that means 1 of every 68 adults has defaulted on a student loan.

At any given time, a large grocery store has 1-5 people who defaulted on a student loan.

There is clearly something wrong with the US society with that many people who can't pay for an education, which is needed to barely get a job.

[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Once again I'm happy to inform you that yes, it's Ronald Reagan's fault. Damn his evil soul.

In pants shitting fear of "Creating an Educated Proletariat" Reagan took our system of basically free college and turned it into this mess we have now.

(P.S.: If you piss on Ronald Reagan's grave in California and are caught by police its a misdemeanor charge carrying a $1000 fine. I don't know about you but I can budget for this particular bucket list item)

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, my parents paid for tuition, books, leisure, food, and board working a summer job.

I had to use the GI Bill, a part time job in fall, winter, and spring, full time job in the summer, doing almost no leisure, money I saved up while in the military, and money my grandparents gave me

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Brought to you by the early 20th century labor movement.

The foundation got laid so strong that people had time to forget what it even was or why it existed, what it was like before. It was worse than today, if you can imagine. Now we're going to have to build the whole damn thing again. No one "in charge" is planning to help with it, either, just like last time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Joe Biden was the Senator most responsible for making those loans undismissible. There is plenty of blame to go around.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And that was the last thing he ever did regarding student loans. 40 years ago. Nothing since. The end. 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That would be relevant if Biden were currently president, and it would have been somewhat less relevant had Biden even been the Democratic nominee for president in 2024.

But Biden wasn't even on the ballot. It's almost completely irrelevant.

When people talk like this, it just reminds me of how they talked about Hillary for Trump's entire first term.

It just gives off the air of bad faith. We're talking about things that are happening right now and are relevant to millions of people. Former politicians can't be anything except a diversion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (18 children)

That would be relevant if Biden were currently president

LOL, is Reagan currently President? Read what I replied to before telling me if my comment is relevant.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are a known both sideser

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Joe Biden forgave half a trillion dollars worth of student loan debt, the Supreme Court told him he couldn't, and he still managed to get a couple of hundred billion forgiven.

All this stuff Trump is now undoing is stuff that Biden did. All these people having their wages garnished, are suddenly having problems because of Biden's people losing the election.

I don't know what or when you're talking about here although I assume it is roughly accurate. Biden did all kinds of fucked up stuff from supporting segregation to supporting Clinton's neoliberalism to the Iraq War and all of it, sure. Israel too, even up to the present day. If you want to tell me we need to get rid of every one of those 1990s Democrats I will 100% agree with you because they are fucking everything up. Biden somehow turned himself into not one of them (except on Israel) even though he was the same age.

I think people are still attacking Biden just out of habit at this point, because what's done is done. But if his party had won, this particular instance of bullshit (along with an incredible amount more) would not be happening. That's what is most relevant here. If you want to look at a broader scale, then let's say that if not for Reagan and for a generation of young people too cool to vote for Democrats because they thought it would help end the Vietnam War if they stopped voting, maybe we'd still be able to support a family on a single income and go to the doctor when we needed to.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Do they do group rates?

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