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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I GUESS

we l l d o n e

Meat is back on the menu boys!

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 5 days ago (7 children)

My favorite "we had to regulate this" is coal mining. You see, the larger a coal mine tunnel, the more work and time it takes. So smaller tunnels will be more profitable. So in some places they preferred smaller women and children, so they could make make smaller, easier tunnels. This one I only ever found one source on, but supposedly one mine owner noticed that snags on clothing were slowing things down in the narrow tunnels so he insisted on sending them in nude. Nothing more capitalist than naked coal mining children.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

We used to add formaldehyde to milk too. Seems worse than chalk to me.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Eventually we Canadians won't even have to boycott American agricultural products, they just won't be able to sell them to us because they won't pass our safety requirements.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Everyone who wants to remove food regulations should just be shot. I'm so tired of these absolute fools that slept through 10th grade history trying to take us back to the gilded age.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Omg is this the joke? Chalk in milk? So it took me 30 years to actually understand this Simpsons joke?

The golden years writers were so genius.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The capitalism we have NOW is actually killing people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

The death and exploitation of the majority is inherent in Capitalism. For the few benefits of such a heinous system of greed as Capitalism to outweigh the overwhelming harm of the system, a strict regulatory system is essential, with real penalties exacted for violating them.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It was so much worse than just chalk. Additives included plaster of Paris, lead, cow brain, and fucking formaldehyde

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Formaldehyde is natural, or bodies make some of it so it's fine /s

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (1 children)

safety rules and regulations are usually 'written in blood'.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

they used to put brick dust in chocolate bars, and sawdust in bread

edit: heck, they just caught someone recently intentionally putting lead in ~~applesauce~~ cinnamon that was used in applesauce, which has been used off and on as a sweetener since at least ancient rome, where a bunch of people went crazy and died from consuming a sweetener made by boiling grapes in lead pots

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Copper sulfate used to be added to canned peas because it turns green when it oxidizes, making them look greener.

Copper sulphate is straight up poisonous, enough will kill a passion and low amounts will hurt them.

Anyone who wants to learn more about this history, there is a great episode of the “ridiculous history” podcast that goes into the story that finally got food regulations in the US. A team of people who volunteered to be poisoned to help prove that certain things are unsafe to put in food.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

recently

My wife loves apple sauce, who did this to her

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

WanaBana Apple Cinnamon Fruit Puree pouches, Schnucks cinnamon-flavored applesauce pouches and variety pack and Weis cinnamon applesauce pouches were recalled

it was actually the cinnamon in the applesauce being cut with lead to significantly increase it's weight, thus it's value. It was an Ecuadoran cinnamon processor called Carlos Aguilera

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/24/nx-s1-5119336/cinnamon-lead-fda-recall-what-we-know

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's also HEAVY, so something light sold by weight just needs a liiiiittle lead to be a lot cheaper to make

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I mean if you think about it, cinnamon is essentially sawdust right?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My favourite was hot dog and sausage vendors in big US cities, especially New York, in the early 1900s ..... they would take semi rancid meat, mix it with lye or some chemical to reduce the stench and bacteria, then mix it with red food colouring .... a good batch was known as a mix that didn't make that many people sick.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Sausage-inna-bun. CMOT Dibbler would be proud, no one else would.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This is why I've been trying to point out that the ground swell around raw milk seems to have less to do with any critiques of pasteurization (there are no good critiques) and more to do with the fact that if pasteurization isn't mandated as the only way to make milk safe to drink, corporations will seek cheaper options, like mixing raw milk with formaldehyde...

Relevant article

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

One thing people forget is that it was Big Food that wanted regulations.

After the book came out, it was almost impossible for American companies to sell their products overseas. Teddy knew that slapping a government label attesting to quality would mean that American companies would be able to make big profits.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So wait, are you telling me regulations actually help companies, too?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Well, it could in the long ago past, but we've outgrown the need for things like regulations, Unions, privacy...

No /s, because that's what MAGats are already saying.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

The U.S. won’t need regulations once the last of its trade partners gives up on it. We’ll be free to eat all the domestic lead and asbestos our dear masters deem necessary to feed us.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Whenever a corporation does something good (for example, make a charitable donation) rest assured it’s been calculated that the positive PR will make it financially worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (5 children)

And it reduces its tax burden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It decreases your tax burden in the same way that giving away all of your money to charity decreases your tax burden.

And in case people need it cleared up: Donating at a register during checkout also does not help the company on their taxes. Its the same as you donating individually except they get the PR for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

I hate it when a store asks me to donate at the register. I’m probably spending more than I want to anyway, and I’m sure the store has a bigger budget than I do. I’m like “fuck off, stop guilt tripping me, and donate yourself.”

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Damn, just five minutes ago I saw this link shared in another thread:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swill_milk_scandal

🤢🤮

It took us well over a century to establish some sort of framework that makes such horrors almost impossible, but no, regulations are bad 🙄

Same for workers btw. And cows. It's not just about food security. That's just easier to sell to a thoroughly egoistic constituency.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gone in <100 days

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There were no regulations that couldn't ever n made unrefrigerated raw milk safe in cities at the time. You either sold milk from cows raised in the city itself(which means cramped quarters and disease) or carted it in on a wagon (which means unrefrigerated milk sitting for hours). Adding formalin likely made it safer, it was so dangerous. The scandal thing played like it was what they were feeding cows (we feed cows high protein spent grains today and it's considered high quality feed), but the reality was milk in cities was always insane.

[–] [email protected] 190 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Welcome to The Jungle, we play dirty games.

Food safety costs a lot, so fuck the FDA

-Food companies, basically.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Not sure if you intended this, but you can absolutely get what you wrote to work with the timing (and same rhyme sounds/pattern, basically) of the first few lyrics of Guns N Roses 'Welcome to the Jungle', with minor modifications.

Welcome to the Jungle,

where we play dirty games.

Food safety sure costs a lot,

so fuck the FDA.

We are the people who hate fines,

Whatever they may be.

If you got no money, honey,

We got your disease.

etc.

(Wonderful that some of the lyrics don't have to change at all, nor really the chorus, yay internal bleeding.)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It gives "Watch it bring it to your n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n knees, knees" an entirety different context! 🤮

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean... the original song's use of that phrase arguably references a woman basically being forced to give bjs to her dealer in order to get drugs she's now addicted to...

All of this is terrible!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

I read the original to the tune without thinking about it!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

such a good read. should be required by all.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

if Upton Sinclair was alive today he would flip his lid

[–] [email protected] 111 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fun fact:

The precursor to the FDA was created during Theodore Roosevelt's administration. After the book was published, Roosevelt sent federal investigators to the Chicago slaughterhouses to validate the conditions detailed in the story.

The investigators reported that the conditions were worse than described in the book. And that was after the slaughterhouse owners got wind that the feds were coming and had everything cleaned from top to bottom.

Hard to imagine what "worse" looks like because the conditions detailed in the book are truly appalling.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago

Additional fun fact, The Jungle was meant to highlight the poor working conditions in slaughter houses, but the outrage was related entirely to the poor consideration for the meat that the public was eating.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Love the cover:
The Jungle Upton Sinclair

[Incidentally and entirely off-topic, it reminds me of the book(s) I'm reading right now: Josiah Bancroft's Tower of Babel tetralogy - urban steampunk jungle, vertically]

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

The book cover has the same vibe as the album cover for Pink Floyd's "Animals", which also happens to be a scathing critique of capitalism.

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