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A very close friend was recently diagnosed with a liver disease so we’ve decided to quit Ms. Nicotina together. I’ve been ingesting nicopeen competitively for around 15 years, ever since I worked as a busboy and couldn’t take a break unless it was for a ciggy (thanks food service industry!!!!).

Genetically I’m fucked from an addiction standpoint. My dad’s mom is 84 and gave up on quitting 20 years ago and her mom didn’t quit until she was forced by the nursing home after she went blind and started a few fires. Both women are living/had lived very long lives but they never successfully got off the nicoco.

However, I have a good feeling about this time because this is the first time I feel I have a good reason outside myself to motivate me: my friend’s health. In the past my attempts at quitting were either motivated by the fear of disappointing a partner or my general lung performance. The former never worked out cos I couldn’t wait to cop a pack as soon as the break up hit (or a big fight for that matter) and the latter worked up to a point but there’s plenty of ways to ingest nicorobin without putting partial-combustion bullshit or even mystery vapors in your air sacks.

Anyway, if you’ve been there tell me how it’s going! What are good nicofleen replacements as a habit or tick? I’m not too worried about oral fixation but I’m considering keeping a surgical steel needle on hand to poke myself with. In your opinion, do I need to turn down grabba/backwoods blunts from my friends? swishers? Is my partner about to be living with a huge baby for a few weeks??

Thanks!!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

First week is awful. Avoid stressful situations, focus on why you want to quit and remember that the cravings are lies. This shit doesn't calm you down, it works you up and then undoes that. How you feel right after a smoke? You will feel like that 100% of the time once you quit except you can actually breath now.

Have stuff you want to do after quitting as motivation. Savings —> some treat, be able to run up a flight of stairs, whatever.

I found the easy way to quit smoking a helpful tool for understanding what my motivations and expectations really were.

Also personal advice? spend day 3 and 4 stoned. It takes the edge off the peak.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh also with your upcoming new lease on working lungs take up running. It'll help them heal and it is such a psychologically awful activity for the first 15 minutes while your body goes "ok we are doing this I guess" that it makes for a personal Mount doom to melt down all the emotions and stresses you don't want to handle.

I jest a bit, but some sort of intense exercise that gives you a reward for not smoking (you can do it now), a chemical buzz, and a way to work out the nervous energy or stresses that lead to you taking up a drug habit initially can be good. For me that is running because it's cheap (shoes, optional), I can do it whenever I feel ansy, and I get a hit fast. My mate stair climbs, my wife lifts weights. It's good to have a way to release happy chemicals and something to say "Ok yeah I got a pang of nostalgia and a craving but I will have to give up my hobby of X if I start smoking again" which helps move the needle against it a tad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Oh jeez. Yeah this one was hard for me. I’m sure you’ve heard, 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months.

First 3 days clear your calendar. Go do stuff and keep yourself distracted, but it you’re not going to be able to do anything really productive. I played a ton of video games, mostly call of duty.

For me, I already had been also vaping with my own vape battery and everything. I got 0 nicotine vape juice and hit it constantly until my craving would subside. Cravings come and go for about a half hour to an hour and if you resist, they will subside until the next time you have a craving (for me, cravings were massively triggered by meals).

It is difficult. Find something that you can replace it with that works for you. Vaping 0 nic worked very well for me, and eventually I just stopped doing it because I stopped being addicted to the actual nictotine (took me about 4 or 5 months to stop vaping the 0 nic juice).

I was a smoker for 11 years, and I quit because I was going on HRT which was a strong motivator for me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Get a fidgeting toy to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

One of my grandparents is leashed to an oxygen hose and can't walk more than 15 feet without getting winded after smoking for most of their life if that's any encouragement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

it seems dumb but I found toothpicks to be very useful as alternatives to a cigarette in my hand or mouth

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think I like that better than gum. I know you can get flavored toothpicks I’m gonna look into getting some.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I spent about a year or two with a cinnamon toothpick in my mouth and never looked back

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

I have successfully quit smoking twice. I know it sounds silly to say successfully when it happened twice, but still: I smoked for about 10 years, about half a pack to a pack (rarely more, if drinking heavily). Then I finally decided to seriously quit, cold turkey, and managed to stay off nicotine for over 3 years. At that point I periodically tested smoking again, by asking friends at parties like "hey can I just see if it does anything for me" and could literally not pull a proper drag even, I felt as if I lost the ability to smoke, similarly to how I was before even starting.

Then I had a very stressful situation in my life, bought a pack of cigarettes on a whim, and started smoking again. After about 6 months I decided that it was a super bad idea and stopped again. Now it's been about 5 months clean, again.

Anyway, the first two weeks are the worst. If you get through them, it will get way easier. At this point I can't stand the smell of smokers, i.e. them just standing close to me. Hydrate properly, have a snack, go for a walk (though admittedly walks can suck if you're used to smoking on them).

Also not sure about the blunts slang, but I was able to smoke joints and take bong hits without nicotine addiction piping up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck, actually wanting to quit instead of feeling a responsibility to makes it much easier. It's still gonna fucking suck though so I'd both warn your partner now that you're going to be kind of a pissy dickhead for a couple of weeks and make sure you apologise for anything you've done or said afterwards. One thing I found helpful was reassociating my breaks - going outside and just playing on my phone or something for 5 minutes instead of having a cig. After 10 or so years a break and a cig were essentially the same thing in my mind, so breaking that association helped a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah I’ll give my partner the full warning. Luckily (?) we’re both ADHD and he’s on the SSRIs so we’re very familiar with mood swings lol.

The reassociation is a good idea! I was thinking about carrying a lil game thing (likely the psp go I have) and taking breaks with that. Definitely one of the things i’ll miss most about smoking is the excuse to separate from the crowd for a moment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Good luck, comrade! Quitting nicotine is absolutely no joke. I tried several times but the only thing that made me quit cigarettes was vaping. I'm still addicted to nicotine, of course, so this is absolutely not advice for you.

The thing that can be understood as advice, though, is that the main reason why vaping made me stay away from cigs was the fact that it replaced the smoke break ritual. My ADHD ass gets bored very easily, so I started smoking because it was an excuse to say "fuck this" at work or school and just go outside for ten minutes.

My point is, try to find something that engages your attention for short periods of time and takes you away from situations that would trigger your "I need a smoke" reflex. Short walks, stretching, fidgeting, doodling, whatever works for you. I replaced that smoke break with vaping, but don't be a dumbass like me, no half measures, Walter. Kick that nasty habit for good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Finding some way to taper off the nicotine will dramatically improve your odds of quitting for good. The oral fixation is a bit harder to deal with but nicotine-free electronic cigarettes can emulate some of the experience of smoking and chewing gum can give you something to do with your mouth. Working out also helps with cravings for some reason. One of the biggest obstacles to qutting can be the social groups/situations you smoked in. I was lucky enough to wind up without any other friends that were hooked on nicotine and that made it easier.

The the second week off of it is the hardest for some reason but after you get past that its all downhill. Getting past that threshold may take multiple tries. Because of how addictive nicotine is I would HIGHLY reccomend abstaining from any form of nicotine once you decide to quit completely. If you let him get his foot in the door youre gonna wake up with him in your bed again, metaphorically. A behavior can be forced into extinction but addiction only ever goes into remission.

I've been off the stuff for exactly two years and two days at this point and I still get occasional cravings, particularly after crying or exiting a high-stress situation.

Good luck. Sorry for the word vomit. You CAN do this and it WILL be worth it, I promise. If you fuck it up, thats alright, just keep trying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

I failed a few times before it stuck. Imo the most important thing is to know deep down in your bones, that there is no such thing as 'just one'. Otherwise you get complacent a few days/weeks in and it's game over. It sounds like you're at that point though, so fingers crossed this is the time 🤞

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

I got lucky and had the worst flu in my life at the time I decided to quit, literally gagged every time I took a hit.

After I got better it was brutal though, feel like it took me almost a year to not get bad cravings, but the worst went away after about a month.

I gained ~20 pounds after I quit, and chewed a shit ton of gum, other than that drinking water helps a lot whenever you get the feeling.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The last time I quit, my doc wrote me a script for nicotine patches. They made it so much easier.

I replaced my smoke breaks with short walks, and avoided going into specific gas stations because the urge to buy a pack was huge.

Good luck, you can do it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Walks are a good idea! Also I should def be avoiding certain gas stations, particularly the ones I know sell loosies under the table.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck! You got this.

For me the physical discomfort only lasted a few days, from there it's the forever slog of just not doing it. I read some BS dopamine hacking stuff about how this part of the addiction is just about your body's expectation of a dopamine hit in response to any particular event you associated with nicotine (fight with your partner, a drink, work stuff, etc). Being conscious of this expectation helped me, and I'd find ways to give myself a little treat to satiate my monkey brain. No idea how grounded in real science this all is, but it kind of worked for me (over a year with just a couple slip ups after a few too many beers).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing! what kind of treats worked for you? like a snack thing? I have a pretty good idea of where my triggers lie, I just need to be ready when they come up.

Also, you reminded me that one of the biggest hurdles I need to get over personally is not completely giving up after the first slip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Not the poster but jellybeans were great for me. Just a pure sugar hit to self sooth. It's ok to have a vice for a while as you quit.

Also, you reminded me that one of the biggest hurdles I need to get over personally is not completely giving up after the first slip.

This is a huge and necessary step mentally. It's not a given you will use the drug again, but you might. If you do there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. any break is progress and helps to decondition your brain. Stumbling is part of life, we learn to walk by figuring out all the different ways to fall over.

Even if the worst happens and you resume the addiction, take a compassionate and critical eye. What worked? what didn't? how can you do better? You've got some past attempts under your belt already and those are not failures they are valuable lessons. You know yourself better, you know some of your triggers, you will do better this time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck! I'm rooting for you meow-hug

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Thank you! 💕