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Summary

A genuine backlash to Trump’s ethno-nationalist authoritarianism may be starting to take shape on its own terms.

The Washington Post-ABC News poll shows “Trump slipping underwater on immigration, which has been his best issue,” with 56% of independents disapproving of his handling.

Only 21% of independents want wrongfully deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia to remain imprisoned. These policies “raise basic issues of fundamental fairness, due process, and the rule of law.”

Trump’s lawlessness across the board is clearly a problem, reinforcing the view he’s engaged in rampant extralegal abuses of power.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Oh he's bleeding independents. I misread that. It cheered up me for a second.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

All I see is 1/5 of independents are racist pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Whoa there! Don't go seeing things like they are. Thats nearly 100 percent unpopular depending on what you see.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Who are these "independents"? Because if they're dumb enough to float over to fascism on a whim, we need to have a talk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

A majority of registered voters in the US have no party affiliation actually.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"independent" rarely means leftist. It usually means "Republican but not proud to wear the label", like libertarian.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

After Harris went AWOL after the election I now consider myself an independent leftist, I don’t belong anywhere right now, dems hate that I think is bullshit harris isn’t leading a resistance and I’m obviously not conservative, at all, so… I’m an independent for right now, I think a lot of people are right now but haven’t embraced it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Ditto on Harris. This shows that she wouldn’t have been a good leader. My eyes are on AOC now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I've been calling myself an independent since the election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I would consider myself one as well, but there's not that many of us

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Oh no a new poll shows fascism isn't popular?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

There was a different AP/NORC poll (arc) released the same day that showed this basic dynamic but with the partisan ratios even more out of whack

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What a mamby pamby headline -- "trump is killing the economy, turning the country into a police state regime and independents kinda are noticing"

WTF ?? 40+ % agree with him? How can this country be like that?

ANYONE who supported him or voted for him or helped him get elected is a racist, a bigot and/or a misogynist--- I don't go for this "oh, a lot of people didn't know what he would do" bullsh!t.

This is why I tell people MAKE A LIST of everyone you know or know of that helped this madman, soon enough a lot of them are going to try and pretend they didn't and we can't let them.

I want to see the Latino community take revenge of these morons who helped him get elected. I want the families of these people snatched off the streets confronting them. I want to see these morons who helped him get elected because Joe Biden wasn't reacting the way they wanted on Gaza to go to Gaza and explain to them that they had to show Biden who was boss and help a man who wants to see them all dead become President.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago

40% is more than the amount of people who voted for him…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, Madame Defarge.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WTF ?? 40+ % agree with him? How can this country be like that?

These 40% of people simply don't see any criticism of their Dear Leader, they self-select their media sources and those sources tell an entirely different story. I call it the Conservative Cinematic Universe....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's completely ridiculous! Not all 40+% are people that worship Trump! A significant portion couldn't care if Trump lives or dies, but they like to see people hurt and/or they think they can profit from it.

If all we had to worry about were the cultists, Trump would be rotting in prison now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They may not all consider themselves to be part of the Trump cult, but they all believe that the Conservative Cinematic Universe is reality, and right now, it is all slobbering Trump's toadstool. So is there any real difference between a true Cultist, and someone who simply believes all the same lies?

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How fucking stupid were these independents 6 months ago?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

They aren't actually independents, they're just Republicans too embarrassed to admit it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Just as stupid as they are today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

How fucking ~~stupid~~ racist were these independents 6 months ago?

Ftfy

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost as stupid as Gavin Newsom saying deportations were a distraction from tariffs and Dems shouldn't talk about them because Republicans were strong on that issue

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Slightly stupider than all the "I'm NoT vOtInG fOr GeNoCiDe" dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The solution to that is to not do genocide

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

single issue voting (or nonvoting) never ends well no matter how good the intentions.

especially when that single issue isn't even fixed by the other side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

They're incredibly naive people who think they have some defensible moral high ground because they didn't vote, but the truth is they've accomplished nothing and surrendered their vote to fascists. If they really cared they'd be out there calling their congressman and lobbying for a change in policy. Yes, this is hard, but no one said change would be easy. The only reason Biden won the previous election is because people went out and voted. The reason Trump won is because they didn't vote. And I bet these people will not take responsibility for his transgressions even though they are partly responsible. I cannot help but feel we deserve this pain because our population would rather take the hypothetical moral high ground over voting for the better candidate.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

..but but but surely centrist hacks with zero integrity who cede the framing of every argument to fascists are the future of the party!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Definitely make every political move you do based upon focus groups and polling, because people definitely love sock-in-the-wind, flip-flopping political creeps with no actual values!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have the memory of a goldfish, but they aren't evil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

And the backbone of a slug.

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