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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Thats the ratcheting effect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I would encourage everyone to watch the video of her speech. The title of this post is incredibly misleading. And takes points out of context.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So abandon economic justice and civil rights.

Is there anything left?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

The color blue, instead of red.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

The democrats were never left.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

Edit:

“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Put her near the top of the list to be primaried.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sure stop pandering to the wealthy and make plans to support and lift the general populace in all areas and you will stop being "woke".
And guess what, the best way to pay for it is to get the fair share of taxes back from those that are avoiding paying completely by paying lawmakers privately.

Wow, so easy, much fun.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

kamala never mentioned identity politics on the campaign

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

God fuck this woman

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

People recognize when they're being talked down to, this is a losing strategy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Somehow this made it worse. “goddamn Alpha energy” - who are these people. All I want is for the dems to not be rich people faking concern for the poor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but she is right. I think the people upset with her in the comments do not live in red areas.

As stupid as it sounds, that is all people seem to care about. The right used to have abortion as a drum to bang. Now that Roe is overturned the right needed a new social cause, and they found 'woke' which is WAY more effective than abortion since it seems to excite both religious, and non-religious.

If you go and talk with people in rural areas you will be shocked by how prominent this issue is in their minds, and I believe it will always beat economic issues for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

If the Democrats become their opposition, then what reason is there to vote for them?

I'm not sure how you fix this, but abandoning your values ain't it. Then it's just a mono-party system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Democrats win by turning out people who otherwise don't vote. If they aren't already turned on by republicans talking like this, will those people see this as anything other than Democrats talking down to them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

The problem is the electoral system. In a system that allows for voting for smaller parties without wasting your vote, the US would probably have 4-5 parties at least. Red state moderates would not be lumped together with progressives, and main street Republicans with the evangelical wing with MAGA

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s prominent in people’s minds because it has been spoon-fed to them by propaganda machines masquerading as actual media controlled by… drumroll oligarchs!

Source: I live in a deep red area in TX. It’s scary the shit people believe because they saw it on Fox News, OAN, or a myriad of bullshit online outlets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

100%. When having this debate I always bring up that the actual "woke" legislation being passed is at best minimal and pandering, and has 0 effect on most people lives. It is a fictional boogie meant to fill the void of abortion as an issue.

But right wing media has been extremely successful and making it seem like this is all the left thinks about. In that sense it is true that the AOC/Sanders tour is a great way to reclaim the conversation, but it is also true that the left needs to fight the narrative that they are the woke party if they want to stop America's rightward drift.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.

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