As a registered democrat (though only because my state requires it to vote in primaries for democrats and I'm certainly not voting republican): pound sand, DNC.
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He's going end up killed when he gets "robbed" while jogging some night soon
I'm in agreement, honestly, we need to be reducing Republican seats as the singular most important goal. Challenging incumbents isn't going to do that.
There's a reason Republicans gained so many seats in the first place, and it's because nobody was satisfied with the Democrat program. If your society has a Trump-shaped hole, a Trump will emerge to fill that hole. You can't remove the Trump without doing something about the hole.
I’m in agreement, honestly, we need to be reducing Republican seats as the singular most important goal. Challenging incumbents isn’t going to do that.
Where were you when AIPAC was buying candidates against Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman? I didn't see your desire to protect incumbents then.
And we do that by promoting progressives that will actually make people want to vote.
Americans haven't had an honest vote on the shape or priorities of our economy in half a century.
Just the social issue wedges that economy either causes or in some way informs in order to keep us at each other's throats and not at our shared enemy in their towers and guard gated compounds.
Would you like your crony market capitalism with affirmation ribbons or scapegoats? Freedom!
Example: you know what would cause a lot fewer abortions almost immediately with absolutely no bans from getting one when the woman deems it necessary? A living wage that can support a family. But that's a non starter, as it would cost our rulers capital, and lower their quarterly ego score estimates.
The situation will continue to decline until collapse or the elevation of an actual leftwing government, and both parties conspire to prevent that from happening.
“Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.” Since when has the DNC not put it's thumb on the scales in the past few decades, or ignored the voters entirely?
Thumb on the scale...? The vote records are public, the primary races haven't even been close for many decades.
The vote records are public
So is the lawsuit in which democrats successfully argued that they didn't have to hold honest primaries.
Given that you've got about 100 years to play with - who else besides HRC did they put their thumb on the scale for?
Please show your work.
I haven't seen any evidence that Bernie should have won the 2016 primary. He was close by like 8% margin, but he still lost by millions of votes.
I still remember the DNC talking points, along with the media going along with the bullshit superdelegate fuckery to custom the story at the time, radically changing the race. Bernie was absolutely rat fucked by the DNC. I guess people can argue He Isn'T eVeN a ReAL DemoCrat, true, but that just plays into the fuckery.
It's probably easier to count the ones where the DNC didn't have their thumb on the scale. First, it's been way less than 100 years since voters even determined who the candidate was; before 1976, primaries were basically just opinion polls, and delegates picked who they wanted regardless of voter input. Also, after the Carter team blamed Ted Kennedy for their loss, the DNC started ostracizing candidates that made primary challenges, so they definitely put their thumb on the scale for incumbents. So off the bat, we're looking at less than 50 years of primaries, and only in non-incumbent years.
Then the party definitely put its thumb in the scale for Clinton in 2016, Biden in 2020, and they literally just picked Harris in 2024. So, that means that the unbiased primaries would be Carter in '76, Mondale in "84, Dukakis in 88, Clinton in 92, Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004 (though personally I think they kinda did a hit-job on Howard Dean) and Obama in 2008. Out of 12 primaries in over 48 years, 7 have been open and fair contests. About 58% successful in keeping their thumb off the scale.
Oh, the primary that gave us Obama was biased as hell. For Clinton.
It wasn't enough. The party learned, though. Which is why they've been moving towards not even having primaries when they can just shove a centrist at us and order us to vote like they want.
DNC: "Fuck Bernie, it's her turn."
The DNC version of neutrality is blocking progressives. Sure they'll happily codify a rule that Hogg cannot help young progressives primary incumbents election while pretending it's about actually neutrality and letting the voters choose. But they'll be just as happy to throw that rule out when they want to support some Republican in sheep's clothing to kick out a progressive next time around.
Hogg isn't looking for young progressives. He idolizes Pelosi, Clinton, Jeffries. The do-nothing incumbents he wants to replace are useless, true. But he wants to replace them with younger versions of centrist corporatists, not progressives.
The guillotine party needs to remove him along with the rest of the DNC leadership.
I'm sure that's why centrists are suddenly freaking out.
The single most important job of the DNC is keeping corporate candidates in office and keeping the money flowing. These fuckos have never been impartial. Anyone else still pissed at fucking Hoyer and the DCCC trying to get the progressive candidate to drop out of a primary?
From the above recording, Tellemann to Hoyer: "So before we, before we go any further on that, Crow is the favorite, in no small part Congressman Hoyer, because the DCCC not only put its finger on the scale, but started jumping on the scale very early on....I mean, it's undemocratic to have a small elite select someone and then try to rig the primary against the other people running. And that is basically what's been happening"
This was after the DNC had rat fucked Bernie, foisted Hillary on everyone, and lost to the serial failure, Fuckhead.
For what it's worth: I just copied this from my response on the other thread with the same article.
That’s a lot of accusing there. And Hogg is going to help through his PAC anyway.
And Hogg is going to help through his PAC anyway.
And he'll probably be stripped of his position in the DNC for it.
Martin told reporters on a call Thursday “Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.”
So they're doing away with superdelegates? Ope wait, nope, Martin is just full of hot air.
Superdelegates don't vote in the primaries. And it's presidential only. And they only comprise 15% of the delegates.
Funny. The corporate press counted them at the start of 2016 when Clinton needed a boost.
Primary EVERYONE!
See? They can push back on something.
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