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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Having a kid will cost you much more than 100grand. Giving you 5k to fuck is such an insult.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The type of person who would think 5k for having a kid is a great deal is exactly the type of person conservatives would bitch about having kids and leeching all the other government resources.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

No, just extracting the maximum possible amount of profit, it's the American way. And 2k is the low end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

$2k gets you Jimmy "Boots" McClusky, on day release from the work farm.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Putin did the same thing, he aware 16k equivalent for having 10+ children .

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is a bummer to have such a legitimately retarded man just riding this country into the earths crust all Slim Pickens style.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Free daycare and free healthcare for people under 18 are two social services that would only benefit parents. How about free college tuition moving forward?

This is just a sad attempt making an exclusive version of establishment Dem stimulus checks...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Idk, it seems like US doesn't even have the basic shit going on, any of that is a good news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Additionally, government supplemented/paid for day care is the only way to pay the teachers fairly. Given places often aim for 4 students:1 teacher, you already have a hard cap of 4*monthly fees for salary for that one teacher. I pay 1.2k/ month, so a teacher can get a max of 4.8k/month if EVERYTHING went to them, which we all know it doesn't due to taxes, administrative staff, utilities, facility fees, etc.

However, if they raise fees, they price people out of a much-needed service at a time when folks typically haven't reached their max earning potential yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

And folks wonder why parents these days are so old. Earning potential to afford daycare in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

They just cut head start, slashed medicade(51% of us babies are born on this program), no medicade no pediatric care for your baby either, cut hud, slashed the department of education, blocked student loan forgiveness, are dismantling the aca preventative care mandate, gutting worker protections, canceling child labor laws, laid off 275,000 workers and destroyed their livelihood and tanked the economy ……yea the birth rate is going to plummet. 5k lol doesn’t even cover a fraction of the utter devastation coming to American families from these moronic policies. Who in their right mind would want to bring a child into this racist sexist tech bro oligarchy?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And all to fund tax cuts for the wealthy - who don’t need them.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, in a couple of years, some countries more than 50% of the population will be retired. Even a perfect democracy would not pass a law to improve young people’s lives so they can have time and money to have kids.

Just like in a perfect democracy, no affordable housing law will be approved because 66% of the population are homeowners.

Its unsolvable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Only if every person votes solely in their own immediate selfish interests. A collective mindset is necessary for a functional democratic society.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct, a "perfect democracy" requires empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago

Based on data presented here: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-true-cost-of-raising-a-child

It takes a minimum of $200K USD to raise a child from birth to 18; which works out to ~$1K/mo.

If the Government were serious in wanting to address the aging population issue, the best way to tackle it would be to provide family funding at this level for a family’s first ~3 children.

Would it be expensive? Absolutely it would be in the initial term - but the increase in economic activity would arguably more than cover it in the long run.

Would it lead to inflation? Not if the costs were derived from taxes due to the government (which currently get dodged), rather than through national debt.

Would it lead to a positive outcome for the nation? Arguably yes, but there may also be unintended consequences to the negative. Human greed knows no bounds, after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Add an extra zero to that. Then we might consider

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Let them get braces.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

I sometimes joke with my kids and call them Lamborghini 1 and 2, because that's how much money it was suggested you would need for each kid, and I'm sure that has doubled or tripled by now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

We had this in Australia for a while, where there was no hospital costs for birth, and almost 20 years ago, so it was a considerable help. The conservatives started claiming people were having babies just to get the money and then spending it on big TV's and other luxuries.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago

Sounds like classic Conservative projection.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Which is hilarious because iirc it was a fucking Howard policy

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

My personsl hypothesis is that when couples are living in times of prosperity or growth, they can see a future and can comfortably grow a pension, then they are likely to consider having kids. This also happens to be the time they are getting a share of the wealth society generates.

In recession and uncertain times, couples tend to hold of on getting kids, and if they do get kids, they do it much later in life, when they have saved some money.

Of course couples need free time as well. If both parents need to work full time, it's gonna be a lot less palatable to have kids.

I think the global low fertility is the problem of infinite growth self correcting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

No matter the state of the economy, if you look at birthrate stats in various countries, it goes down with women rights and access to contraception. People just don't want kids.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

You're right, when they have the choice, which is also why the Reich Wing wants to limit abortion and contraception and LGBT+ (non-accidentally-reproductive) relationships.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

After he rolls this out he'll start pushing to drop the child tax credit arguing, "they already get so much investment up front. They're so greedy."

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