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If they were just talking about Reddit, I’d assume something dodgy was going on connected with the IPO. But Quora is supposedly back from the dead too… Am I missing something glaringly obvious here?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Wasn't it that (they want to) offer a way to get money for your karma points?

[–] [email protected] 222 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Election is coming up, all Russian bots

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Judging by the trending posts, its mostly us liberal bots :).

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I cannot wait for reddit going public, it's going to generate so much drama, that's going to be soooo good.

Lemmy instances brace yourself

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Part of it is either Reddit manipulating search positioning or Google (most people's default search) prioritizing Reddit results. Searching for answers to questions often results in a half page of Reddit links. They may not be relevant, but that doesn't become apparent until you're there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

The growth trend according to Google Trends indicates that it is still growing, but definitely not a quadrupling over 6 months.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

seems sus to me

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

The article seems to suggest a change on the Google search algo and how Reddit pumps the SEO is to blame as it's showing up in search rankings above other more relevant results.

I'm assuming "traffic" here is individual page visits, which would shoot up if people are just pulling up one page from a "how do I do X" type of search. I doubt this boost is coming from people sticking around, but I'm sure that's not how Reddit will spin it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I do believe reddit pops up in my search results more frequently these days than it did a year ago, without any explicit prompting with 'reddit' keyword... (just based on my impression, though)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I honesty can't search a damn thing and not have Reddit be the first result. I basically been using AI over search to fix things... probably as intended.

That or google bought a lot of shares ahead if IPO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of AI LLMs have been trained on reddit...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Not saying its bad info sometimes. There's a reason most of us used reddit. It just seems like its the new SEO optimized background noise now. It's not what I'm looking for, and I rather avoid the site now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

There are search addons able to filter out specific sites, if you'd like it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So Reddit is turning into Quora.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

This would be my guess- Reddit is more reliable for random queries than much of the internet, as AI propagates.

I see more and more suggested "my search Reddit" on Google even as I visit Redfit way less now

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They are probably paying clickfarms.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Reddit probably isn’t, as that would be cooking their metrics and Huffman would get fucked by the long arm of the SEC. They might still be, Huffman loves Elon and Elon got away with tons of shit.

Advertisers are probably paying more content farms to astroturf it though.

Plus without the API, do you really think people just stopped scraping Reddit? They just run a headless Chrome instance now and I bet Reddit doesn’t look the gift horse of traffic in the mouth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The API is not gone, and is still free for both “for non-commercial researchers and academics under our published usage threshold” and “for moderator tools and bots”

https://www.redditinc.com/blog/apifacts

There are several ways to add your personal API key to (modified) final versions of Sync, Relay, Infinity, and even Apollo on iOS to be able to continue to use those clients, however Reddit has changed how Reddit links work, so those methods are becoming more and more broken.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Advertisers are probably paying more content farms to astroturf it though.

Yup, in fact we just banned ~13 accounts tonight from a subreddit I'm still involved with. That's just the ones we identified, and it's only a medium sized subreddit

A user noticed that the responses to a post sounded a little off and reported it. Turns out there was a network of bots using generative AI to mix real academic advice (ex. "Go talk to the advising office") with occasional subtle advertisements (ex. "I recommend using grammarly and (advertised service)".

Once we caught on, we looked through the history of those accounts and gathered as many as we could identify and banned them all.

I don't think this is Reddit's doing, and they're usually good about banning spam bots site wide once a mod report is made. Still, they benefit from increased activity and they have an incentive to do less of that. It was also much harder to notice the problem because of the AI generation. If a user didn't explicitly report it, I probably wouldn't have noticed

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

I highly suggest you ban what the were advertising and not just the account.

If advertiser's realize the shady bot farms they deal with are causing any comment that mentions their product to be automatically deleted, they will stop.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is going to be the Idiocratizing of the internet. AI is going to be training in itself with these unidentified posts and get dumber and dumber.

Let’s hope no one lets it have access to anything important…

It feels a little like how steel from before above ground nuclear testing, called low-background (or pre-war) steel because it isn’t contaminated is prized for building some sensors.

Pre AI information need to be preserved, otherwise we might not really know if the info we’re seeking is fact based in any way.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except I can totally see them committing securities fraud in order to pump up the numbers. It seems very much like something they would do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

I think that’s what this part of the comment was about:

They might still be, Huffman loves Elon and Elon got away with tons of shit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

The SEC got its funding slashed by Trump - are they like the IRS now where they don't have the resources to truly do the job anymore?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Bots have quadrupled.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Simplest explanation is that the general public doesn't give a shit and while Facebook is on the downturn (not sure if numbers can back that up) people need to go somewhere else. Maybe that is reddit right now, they got the marketing and content to get people on it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'd like to hear that crapbook is going downhill, but its share price says otherwise

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Its share price doesn't matter in this context, since Meta also owns Instagram, which is absolutely not going downhill at the moment.

Facebook however is losing active users, especially in the younger age ranges and even more pronounced in Europe and the US.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Enron’s share price was very high right up until the end, too. Share price is not necessarily a good indicator of underlying fundamentals

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