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That’s just wild. The one silver lining to T2 is that I’m not shocked by anything anymore. It’s still outrageous, but the surprise is gone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 37 minutes ago

All those DOGE savings went to this. They really hate science and anything factual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

This is a huge waste of money. They should doge it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Regardless of where it actually came from (probably bats) this site is just propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So did it originate in a Wuhan Lab or not? I keep hearing one thing then another.

Not trying to confuse the issue, I legitimately don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

No one know because China are not going to admit if it was a lab leak. Also lab leaks doesn't mean the virus is human made. However there are some un-answerd questions. There were scientists spies that got caught with sample from Canadian labs flying to China, and there was some concern about military funding and other few things that support the leak theory. However it is not conclusive evidence. So it stay at the theory level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

That’s some serious AboveTopSecret bullshit right there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So the narrative is COVID was a dangerous lab leak - but also, you don't have to wear a mask?

Consistency is not a strong point of these dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

It's pretty standard to play both extremes simultaneously, and people just pick whichever they want to relate to at any given moment.

eg.

  • (such-and-such group) are lazy, but also they are taking all the jobs.
  • They are stupid, but also have secret organisations that control the world, with mind-control, and lasers that control the weather, etc.
  • They are snowflakes obsessed with inclusiveness, but also they want (target-minority-group) to take over.
  • They are against free speech; and we must silence them.

I'm sure others can think of more, and variations on those.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think there's enough evidence to conclusively say that it was natural or that it was a lab leak. There is actually quite a lot of evidence that it was a lab leak, but this website looks like such BS.

There's also good evidence that Jeanne Calment was not the world's oldest woman, but was instead her mother. Also, it's well-understood that lightbulb manufacturers conspired to lower lifespans of bulbs throughout the 20th century. Just because there was a conspiracy don't mean it ain't real.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The lightbulb cartell existed, but it wasn't like we could have had lightbulbs that would have lasted longer with the same efficiency and light output.

The difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy is that the latter has actual evidence for it. I don't think that's the case for the lab leak "theory".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Here's an analysis of a debate about whether it is or is not a lab leak. There's very compelling arguments on both sides, but I find the lab leak angle to have the most evidence for it.

I think I understand why people assume it can't be a leak -- it sounds like fiction; people have said this about previous events and turned out to be wrong; it would be bad for China if true, so it must be politically motivated. It's okay, you can relax and join me in the ranks of people who are open minded to either outcome.

(Edit: This is a stupid aside, but you define theory as something with no evidence for it, and then put lab leak "theory" in quotes as though you don't think it fits that definition.)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

The tall letters in all caps.
The dramatic fade to blue.
Trump standing in the middle.
The fancy font on 𝓒𝓸𝓿𝓲𝓭.

Oooh the tackiness is too much to bear

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

First this, then releasing 10000 pages worth of John F. Kennedy files. lol these are right out of the dictator's handbook to public agenda manipulation. Trump can't even do the dictator thing very well, it is such a rookie level move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I would have preferred a simple 1 page faq with who did it and how was the government involved if at all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

I always wondered what it would be like to live in oppressive regimes like Russia or China. Also never thought I'd live through a pandemic. Checking all the boxes lately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I got that reference. The poster they gave out a MacWorld SF in 2004 is framed on the wall right behind me in my office. Bonus: you can see my Trans Pride (for others) reflected in the glass. It's hanging in the window.

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