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$150 billion: that’s the grand total of savings Elon Musk revealed last Thursday that he and his DOGE team are “expecting” to make after months of ruthless and often mindless cuts.

To call this a monumentally unimpressive number doesn’t do it justice. Musk’s “savings” here — which are already error-ridden and inflated in the first place, created by totaling up spending that never actually existed or that was, alternately, either already cut or never actually was — represent just 15% of the trillion dollars he originally promised he would slash.

In fact, government spending so far under Donald Trump has actually gone up compared to the last two years under Joe Biden.

“Musk will have effectively crippled the modern American state and ripped vital services away from ordinary Americans in order to pay for more waste at the Pentagon.”

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Which is what Putin has tasked him with.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

NOT True! NOW that we saved a couple Million we can Afford BILLIONS in Contracts for Elon Musk and El Salvador and Greenland and my Kids is Starving because they Cut his Funding!

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Doesn’t matter to the supporters. They believe he has streamlined government and saved gazillions. And if you don’t like DOGE there must be something wrong with you. Why wouldn’t you want a more efficient government without fraud and waste? Do you want waste?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And we let him. I propose a sea burial. But let him try to explain fir...nah get in the box!

[–] el_muerte@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think we should help him fulfill his dream of going to Mars.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

The suit is not finished, but we'll send the missing parts a few days later! Promise! Wink wink!

[–] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Same as he did with Twitter. What is new?

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean I've been told this is the year to fudge on your taxes since the IRS is fucked so I mean maybe there's some silver lining. Frankly Elon isn't as bad as- hold on someone's knocking on my door, I'll be back in a bit.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Might not be the year to break laws though, considering even judges can't save you

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

just FYI, its easier to audit a poor/middle class person because they dont pay 600 lawyers to play with where the money is for tax loopholes. Unless youre a multimillionaire you'll probably end up regretting fudging anything unfortunately.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The goal was never to save money but find ways to enrich himself.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ending democracy, that's their true goal.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The working class has never had any form of democracy

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not true at all, even if you want to restrict yourself and only consider direct democracies as true democracies, you have at least Switzerland as an example.

In Sweden and Denmark, workers can even choose representatives to sit on the board of directors of the companies where they work (however, only for companies with more than 25 or 35 employees).

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

This entire post and thread is about the US

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

He didn't save anything he's stealing it.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I’m also concerned with the “fraud, waste and corruption “ that was the infrastructure bill. It’s becoming more and more clear we’re sitting on a timebomb of infrastructure built over a century ago and that we’ve ignored for at least half a century. It’s going to keep getting worse and worse , keep getting more expensive to repair: we’re way past time to invest in infrastructure and that was only the start toward getting back in a decent state of repair.

… just watching a video where they were debating whether it’s worth to rebuild a 137 year old tunnel in heavy use. How is that even a question?

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People don't understand that a state isn't a private company, and you can't manage the state like in the private sector.

[–] weirdboy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

He also is not great at managing companies either.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The US budget is $7 trillion. Even if we pretend he saved $150 billion, that's 2% of the budget.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

THAT was not the point

The destruction of the Nation, was.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yes, and…..

[–] Kompressor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yes but he was able to direct the blank checks to himself and his buddies so the day is saved actually.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Correction:

Saved his own ass, in numerous ways.

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Heard of the whistleblower related to DOGE who claims the tech group hired by Musk had already tried to breach government for years or so?

And how with each DOGE visit to a given department it always followed tactics of distraction and getting stored data, then suddenly leaving?

And how there's suddenly many breach attempts by suspicious hackers linked to Russia right after DOGE visits?

Or how the biggest culprit of government bloating by hecking far, the Department of Defense, same department who has failed several audits, was never a target of DOGE?

Hm... Not suspicious at all. Sadly I can't recall the source, but I think it was on YouTube.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

He saved all of our personal and national security information to give to the kremlin

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

150 billion

Yeah and if you actually believe that to be true then I have a bridge to sell you. These dumb fucks sold 8 million as 8 billion

I'd be surprised if it's even close to 15 billion

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's probable that it's way less than that, and that's not factoring in whatever it'll cost to unfuck everything he's done. Not that that's likely to happen anytime soon.

Also not counting in the brain-drain that is already happening.

I hope it'll be better for all you normal human beings in the US at some point in the future, I really do, but fuck me if this shit isn't scary all the way on the side of the Atlantic, and that's coming from someone living right next door to Russia. I'm way more scared of what'll happen when the US goes full 4th Reich.

I guess one could argue you're already there to be fair, but I still hope it went too far too fast and a backlash is incoming.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It also completely ignored the cost of the consequences, which is likely going to easily outpace any money "saved".

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Oh inwasnt even gonna go there. Once you start pulling those threads it just becomes an absolute Avalanche of shit

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also they lost like 500Bn according to the IRS due to cutting IRS staff alone, not including revenue lost as a result of cutting services that the government provided and revenue lost as a result of other nations no longer doing business with the USA such as arms sales, energy, rocketry, hospitals, and other transactions.

By all accounts DOGE is losing money.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Same answer as the other reaction: if i start pulling on those threads then there is no end

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These dumb fucks sold 8 million as 8 billion

Even aside from stuff like this, things they claim to be saving tend to be cut contracts. Contracts that have already been paid, but will no longer have to provided what they'd been paid for.

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