I do like the OLED on my phone, however certain colors do show that the keyboard down at the bottom has now burned in. :(
Edit Bottom of my OLED phone on a white/gray background. No keyboard present:
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I do like the OLED on my phone, however certain colors do show that the keyboard down at the bottom has now burned in. :(
Edit Bottom of my OLED phone on a white/gray background. No keyboard present:
My WOLED monitor vs my old main.
It's amazing. With my black theme, a black background, and the mouse off the monitor, you can't even tell the thing is on.
I'm always worried about burn in so I prefer the kind of screen where that can't happen.
On the other hand, I like that OLED screens can be near paper thin. There are some applications of that, that I would really like to see eventually. Namely: Animated T-shirts.
Reposting from my comment in the past. TLDR: I took the plunge on OLED TV in 2021 as a primary monitor and it's been incredible
I've been using an LG C1 48" OLED TV as my sole monitor for my full-time job, my photography, and gaming since the start of 2021. I think it's at around ~~3000~~ 4500 hours of screen time. It averages over 10 hours of on time per weekday
It typically stays around 40 brightness because that's all I need, being fairly close to my face the size. All of the burn-in protection features are on (auto dimming , burn-in protection, pixel rotation) but I have Windows set to never sleep for work reasons.
Burn in has not been a thing. Sometimes, I leave it on with a spreadsheet open or a photo being edited overnight because I'm dumb. High brightness and high contrast areas might leave a spot visible in certain greys but by then, the TV will ask me to "refresh pixels" and it'll be gone when I next turn the TV on. The task bar has not burned in.
Experience for work, reading, dev: 8/10
Pros: screen real estate. One 48" monitor is roughly four 1080p 22" monitors tiled.The ergonomics are great. Text readability is very good especially in dark mode.
cons: sharing my full screen is annoying to others because it's so big. Video camera has to be placed a bit higher than ideal so I'm at a slightly too high angle for video conferences.
This is categorically a better working monitor than my previous cheap dual 4k setup but text sharpness is not as good as a high end LCD with retina-like density because 1) the density and 2) the subpixel configuration on OLED is not as good for text rendering. This has never been an issue for my working life.
Experience with photo and video editing: 10/10
Outside of dedicated professional monitors which are extremely expensive, there is no better option for color reproduction and contrast. From what I've seen in the consumer sector, maybe Apple monitors are at this level but the price is 4 or 5x.
Gaming: 10/10
2160p120hz HDR with 3ms lag, perfect contrast and extremely good color reproduction.
FPSs feel really good. Anything dark/horror pops A lot of real estate for RTSs Maybe flight sim would have benefited from dusk monitor setup?
I've never had anything but a good gaming experience. I did have a 144hz monitor before and going to 120 IS marginally noticable for me but I don't think it's detrimental at the level I play (suck)
Reviewers had mentioned that it's good for consoles too though I never bothered
Movies and TV: 10/10 4K HDR is better than theaters' picture quality in a dark room. Everything I've thrown on it has been great.
Final notes/recommendations This is my third LG OLED and I've seen the picture quality dramatically increase over the years. Burn-in used to be a real issue and grays were trashed on my first OLED after about 1000 hours.
~~Unfortunately, I have to turn the TV on from the remote every time. It does automatically turn off from no signal after the computers screen sleep timer, which is a good feature~~. There are open source programs which get around this. Bazzite and Mac seems to handle this too.
This TV has never been connected to the Internet... I've learned my lesson with previous LG TVs. They spy, they get ads, they have horrendous privacy policies, and they have updates which kill performance or features... Just don't. Get a streaming box.
You need space for it, width and depth wise. The price is high (~~around 1k USD on sale~~ prices are even lower now) but not compared with gaming monitors and especially compared with 2 gaming monitors.
Pixel rotation is noticeable when the entire screen shifts over a pixel two. It also will mess with you if you have reference pixels at the edge of the screen. This can be turned off.
Burn in protection is also noticable on mostly static images. I wiggle my window if it gets in my way. This can also be turned off.
I miss my plasma tv.
OLED every time. The original PS Vita was far superior to the remake with the LCD, and the OLED Steam Deck is way better than the first model. Also the Switch OLED screen is very nice, but the Switch is garbage in general so screw it.
Definitely! OLED is unusable for me because it has really bad PWM flickering. The majority of people can't see the screen flashing on and off like a strobe light, but many of us have eyes that do see the flashing, and it's awful.
I can't wait until a new display technology gets popular that doesn't use Pulse Width Modulation
I can see flicker in some 60 Hz LED lighting in the corner of my eyes, using the rods in the irises of my eye, when I can't see it using the cones in the pupil. Stick the light in the middle of my vision, and the flicker vanishes. Drove me nuts with some inexpensive, high-power corncob LED light bulbs that didn't have an electronic ballast, just fed wall power directly to an array of LEDs.
Wikipedia says that the cones are more time-sensitive than the rods, which isn't what I'd expect if that were the case. But that's what I experience. Maybe it was the result of the thing getting a sine wave
which is what wall power would input to an LED
rather than a square wave, which is (roughly) what I'd expect a system controlling brightness of an LED using PWM to output. I don't know what else would be unusual about that situation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_fusion_threshold
Different points in the visual system have very different critical flicker fusion rate (CFF) sensitivities; the overall threshold frequency for perception cannot exceed the slowest of these for a given modulation amplitude. Each cell type integrates signals differently. For example, rod photoreceptor cells, which are exquisitely sensitive and capable of single-photon detection, are very sluggish, with time constants in mammals of about 200 ms. Cones, in contrast, while having much lower intensity sensitivity, have much better time resolution than rods do. For both rod- and cone-mediated vision, the fusion frequency increases as a function of illumination intensity, until it reaches a plateau corresponding to the maximal time resolution for each type of vision. The maximal fusion frequency for rod-mediated vision reaches a plateau at about 15 hertz (Hz), whereas cones reach a plateau, observable only at very high illumination intensities, of about 60 Hz.[3][4]
Passing an open hand with fingers extended in front of the light tends to make any flicker more visible, as it makes the moving fingers "judder", as with a strobe light.
The flicker fusion threshold does not prevent indirect detection of a high frame rate, such as the phantom array effect or wagon-wheel effect, as human-visible side effects of a finite frame rate were still seen on an experimental 480 Hz display.[6]
Damn, so basically you can't use any high-end smartphones due to a biological reason outside your control? 😥 (because all high-end smartphones use OLED)
Yup. It really sucks. Being able to see things that are very quick is like a superpower, but as far as i can tell there's only downsides
It does matter, but there are drawbacks and advantages each way.
My current monitor is LCD. When I bought it, that was because OLED prices were significantly higher.
I like the look of the inky blacks on OLEDs. I really love using the things in the dark.
If you're using a portable device, OLED can save a fair bit of power if you tend to have darker pixels on the screen, since OLED power consumption varies more-significantly based on what's onscreen. I use dark mode interfaces, so I'm generally better-off from a pure power consumption standpoint with OLED.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_plasma,_and_OLED_displays
OLED displays use 40% of the power of an LCD displaying an image that is primarily black as they lack the need for a backlight,[35] while OLED can use more than three times as much power to display a mostly white image compared to an LCD.
OLEDs are more prone to burn-in than LCDs, but my understanding is that newer OLEDs have significantly improved on this. And it takes a long time for that to happen.
Aside from price, I'd mostly come down on the side of OLED. However, there is one significant issue that I was not aware of at the time I was picking a monitor that I think people should be aware of. As far as I can tell from what I've read, present-day OLED displays have controllers that don't deal well with VRR (variable refresh rate, like Freesync or Gsync). That is, if you're using VRR on your OLED monitor and the frame rate is shifting around, you will see some level of brightness fluctuation. For people who don't make use of VRR, that may not matter. I don't really care about VRR in video games, but I do care about it to get precise frame timings when watching movies, so I'd rather, all else held equal, have a monitor that doesn't have VRR issues, since I have VRR enabled. If I didn't care about that, I'd probably just turn VRR off and not worry about it.
EDIT:
https://www.displayninja.com/what-is-vrr-brightness-flickering/
This was a great comment! Where does QLED fit into all of this?
I've never really wanted to get a QLED monitor, so I haven't spent time looking at their VRR behavior; sorry. I imagine that there's material out there about it, though.
Bought a highly rated QLED a year ago
Already getting dark spots on the screen
Getting an OLED next time
I think you answered a question I had: whether QLED or OLED came out first. I presume it's in that order based on the issue you mention.
I still use a CRT as my only computer monitor (its significantly better than LCD; OLED is maybe equivalent to CRT picture quality nowadays)
OLED, all day
I've had a mid-tier OLED tv the last few months. The colors and contrast look phenomenal to me. You get true black on OLED since each pixel is individually lit.
I watch a lot of horror films which will have many dimly lit or night time scenes. OLED makes those scenes much easier to see because of increased contrast between dark and light.
I've used OLED on phones (my current, free because cracked screen) and like the idea* but considering I have a super-budget desktop (old stuff, unlikely to upgrade) and keeping it mostly to free/old content I'll stick to whatever low-tier 1080p displays are already in my home.
Maybe OLED multi-touch if it wasn't an upsell and niche market, so realistically when you add in burn-in fear it's either I get some second-hand laptop/tablet that has it (with a bad/no battery) or some new manufacturing tech solves it (either way, probably not for me in the next 10 years).
It might make more sense for VR immersion, though again between cost and specs (cost again) plus whatever lock-in nonsense (which I already saw of the oculus stuff with a family member who likely won't ever unlock dev mode) probably not for me.
* particularly for the contrast ratio (off pixels), though unless you're into horror stuff this seems like a bit of a gimmick (even space content is not a guaranteed fit). It's either that or making my own OLED edits of movies, which I find unlikely to work well via a blind edit (as I don't expect a script to be perfect).
The price difference does not make it matter or make me care. Once OLED gets cheap enough to be priced similar to LCD, my opinion will definitely change to OLED being much better.
OLED for my tv has been awesome, thinking I will go laser projector next though
For phones, I prefer an LED. Better blacks and looks good, especially when used at night.
For work laptops and displays, I prefer LCD that are matte. Less reflection, usually cheaper in price, and no harm in it displaying a static image for extended number of hours everyday.
They're both LED though. LCD screens have an LED backlight these days.
Yep. That's the point.
LED backlit has LCD sub pixels in the front. The whole LED backlight might not burn (though can still happen).
Still longer life than a tual LED sub pixels.
My eye site is bad enough that I can't tell the difference.