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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So the reality that was spoken/written during the road to the elections all over Lemmy, were Biden and later Kamala were supposed to win by a large margin, was a false and utter lie? A fabrication?

Okay good

Now what's to say this isn't another fabrication as well?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're white and on the left its time you started infiltrating these conservative spaces. I do, and as soon as they see you are white all you have to do is ignore 1 racist comment and these people open all the folds for you. Its time to get dirty with the people spreading the dirt. The right wanted a revolution? They'll get it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I'm barely keeping my sanity from fraying, the last thing I need is to make it worse by surrounding myself with people I hate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's official, West Coast is the best.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Commiefornia can’t be cracked!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're saying that ironically to mock conservative labels, hell yeah brother!

Otherwise fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Really guys

This is lemmy cmon, at least put in the effort to question the data source

How many of you even had an option to fill in your race on your voter registration form? My state doesn't even collect this info.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its a shitpost that makes pearl-clutching liberals feel good.

Man = bad

White man = badder

🤷🏽‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Updoots to the left

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

No fucking way this is real data. Dont believe everything you see on the internet people this is clearly bullshit. Trump won yes but no fucking way is this data legit. Its just hate spewing this post should be fucking dropped for false information. No way blue states had all white men voting Trump lol fuck off OP.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Imagine being in this much denial about the reality of racist usa.

But on the other hand I would like to see a source. Edit: source fwiw.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

That thread says they were created using this tool, but I see no way to isolate genders there: https://www.cookpolitical.com/swingometer/2024

It looks like someone isolated the different racial categories, then tacked on "men" for superior click-bait.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Also no chance all black men voted blue either. Sexism is strong in this country, like really.fuckmorhering strong

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Who are you going to believe? The incessent liberal urge to accuse minorities of being bigoted, or your own, lying eyes?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

White men I can understand (if not agree with). But come on Latinos, you should be fucking better than this.

"Immigrants are poisoning the blood of America"

"Yeah, ese. You tell 'em."

At least the ones in California appeared to know what was up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I don't live in the US but my country has also had a lot of immigration, invasions (true ones with armies, not mean ways to describe immigration), internal migrations from poorer parts of the country, you name it... Basically almost everyone is an immigrant in one way or another.

Well, our version of the far right has a lot of support from first or second generation immigrants.

One part of it is to pull the ladder up after ourselves and avoid others coming in and competing with us for the same jobs. Another part is that immigrants are on average poorer and angrier about the state of things, and for the populist far right, anger is fuel.

But also, Populists are becoming increasingly good at blurring the lines and making certain people feel included in the "in group" at election time, even if they are going to kick them in the head as soon as the ballots close. Case in point, AfD in Germany being led by a gay woman with an immigrant partner, "Brothers of Italy" being led by a single mom.... Usha Vance is not an isolated edge case, she seems to be part of a playbook, whether she knows it or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As a man and Asian, I guess the stereotypes are true.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I guess Latino men are fighting harder for that model minority status these days than Asian men

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What the flying fuck is wrong with Latinos?

When I was growing up in the 90s and 2000s, Latinos almost almost always voted democrat. What changed? How did they end up voting for the party that hates them the most?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Because the democrats made the mind-numbingly stupid decision to pivot right like they always do, this time on immigration. No more, "Building the wall is racist," no more, "No one is illegal," instead it was, "We're the ones who are actually going to build the wall, Trump's all talk." To this end, they attempted to pass a bill that would have greatly expanded the president's ability to crack down on immigrants.

They figured, as they always do, that everyone would simply fall in line behind them as the "lesser evil." Instead, the result was that they undermined their argument that stricter immigration laws were grounded in racism (which they are, of course), and failed to distinguish themselves from the Republican position. Many Latinos have conservative positions on other issues, and, perceiving little significant difference between the two parties' stances on immigration, they voted based on other, less important cultural issues where there was a meaningful difference. It's worth noting that some people have the sentiment, "We came here legally so they can too," and it was only when there was (correct) messaging that cracking down on undocumented immigrants was a slippery slope that would endanger legal immigrants that they were able to be persuaded to set aside other cultural issues. This messaging was abandoned because it was considered potentially alienating the the oh so precious (white) moderate Republicans, who also didn't vote for them, because they're nonexistent/unwinnable.

This is one of many, many examples of how moving towards the "center" can alienate voters and lose votes, especially when it involves acting against your constituents' material interests.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

My state is getting very scary lately... this map scares me even more. I am very afraid of our next election this fall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

If you don’t mind, what exactly about your state is scary right now?

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