Plover. I'm still not any good at it.
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I know that feeling.
QWERTZ with Slovene/Croatian letters
Programmer dvorak
I also taught myself Colemak and Workman, but I prefer Dvorak
How difficult was it to learn and switch?
When I considered I ultimately didn't commit to practice - because it's so different and seemed like not worth the effort.
How do see the impact it has? It is considerably more comfortable or efficient?
I use QWERTZ the Swiss version. (It's not optimal as it has to accomodate 3 languages)
I switched to Colemak-dh about 2 year ago when I bought a ZSA Moonlander after getting a terrible case of rsi in my left wrist. When I type on other keyboards (which I try to avoid whenever possible) I still use qwerty. Curious thing, I write at about 70 wpm with 99% accuracy with colemak-dh on my Moonlander but I can't pass 10 wps when using colemak-dh on other keyboards, and I have no hope in hell writing with qwerty on the Moonlander at all. The motor memory is completely decoupled between the split keyboard and the non-split keyboard. Which I guess is good, since then when using someone else's keyboard I won't have issues using their keyboard.
What you just described is pretty much exactly my experience with colemak and split keebs too.
When i was learning colemak i decided to take the time to teach myself proper touch typing at the same time. Now i can only touch type colemak on a split ortho. I cant type qwerty at all on it.
Qwertz.
I teu tried neo couple of years ago but did not use it long enough to get proficient.
This Heatmap is why I made the switch to colmak-dh.
I think I will bind E to my spacebar.
Lol yeah the spacebar is so much wasted real estate. Thats why ergo mech keyboards map it to a thumb cluster.
Swedish. Of course, these all lack three letters. And I don't think this tool counts special characters?
I think this makes sense for people who type only in English. If you type in other languages, this becomes way less relevant.
Not to mention the limitations in hardware.
French has the bépo layout which applies the Dvorak methodology to French
I type in other languages as well on Colemak dh, it's still way better
Yeah no definitely. This is a heatmap generated off of English words.
However Germanic/latin languages may be similar
I type in English, Portuguese and Spanish (mainly in English because code, then Portuguese because I live in Brazil) and I use Dvorak. I don't use accents or other special characters, but because I'm a "gringo" I get a pass.
QWERTZ
German spotted hehehe.
Croatian actually :D
I use Colemak, but just learned about Colemak-DH in this thread, I might give that a try, as the hjkl keys seem to be better positioned and have been trying to get back to vim.
Dvorak for over 25 years.
Engram. It’s a great layout that focuses on pinky in rolls.
It’s a steep layout to learn even compared to thing like Colemak but I find it quite satisfying.
i've used dvorak but I plan to switch to a charachorder
QWERTZ
Dvorak for more than 30 years, because at the time, it was the only reasonable alternative.
I'm French but I'm a programmer. I fully switched to standard Colemak in 6 months. There was no difference between QWERTY and AZERTY to me and I had pain in my wrists. Colemak removed that pain in a few weeks and I still get to keep the standard shortcuts (Ctrl+C/V...) because some keys stay in the same place. It's annoying sometimes when you're learning but it's definitely worth it.
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