this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2025
802 points (99.1% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

6628 readers
6 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Access options:

Yes, this means a ton of carbon ends up in the atmosphere instead of in the trees. The right move would be thinning and prescribed burns, but this administration isn't going to do that.

(page 3) 44 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Can you just find the article about this story that's not published in a corporate paper instead of posting this link?

It doesn't take long to find a better source

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why people link to a paywalled article in the first place boggles my mind. You're not sharing information, you're just advertising the paper for free.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just wondering, what makes a forest a national forest and does this include trees in national parks or are they protected?

[–] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Safe to say, nothing's protected from this admin

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Cutting down old growth Forrest take 50 years to repair the area after its stopped. What a mess.

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Way longer than that. What grows back is not old growth

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Then i guess it's time to start living up to the old namesake.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

George Washington Hayduke is one of the four main characters in The Monkeywrench Gang written by Edward Abbey. They're a group of anarchists that destroy things like earth movers to prevent logging or drilling, and just generally fuck with private companies profiting off of public lands.

Basically, they're eco-terrorists.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think half country would cheer for poison ivy right now.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd be happy with a half serving of sanity right now. As a treat.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah probably 30% with another 30% saying this has no impact on their daily lives.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

30% saying this has no impact on their daily lives.

"The eco-terrorists are just as bad as the Nazis!"

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

It worries me it could be either 30% we are talking about.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 88 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Uhm, why can he just decide this? Not part of his expertise or departement.

[–] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Trump doesn't like that the US buys lumber from Canada. He's going to announce 34% tariffs on lumber from Canada in the next few days.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Trump is speedrunning to aim for the lowest biodiversity index in North America.

Maybe if we stop ridiculously subisidising corn everywhere, some that gets thrown away because we have way too much, we could replace a couple dozen sq km of corn fields with more sustainable agroforestry, and thereby massively increase our logging output, instead of yk, cutting down the last wildlife sanctuaries? Not holding my breath tho.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 months ago
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Save a forest, shoot a ...

Wait, where's the line where what I say gets me banned again?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 12 points 2 months ago

In my experience, that line was mostly left over on Reddit.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is there a list of which forests opened for logging?

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I can't find one, I'd like to see a map but I don't expect there is one.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Probably all of them, start with half then charge more to open the second half.

[–] BarelyAdulting@midwest.social 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We get 30% of our lumber from Canada. This is the inevitable consequence of shutting our borders to trade via tariffs - if these policies stick around for four years, sure, we may bring some manufacturing home at great immediate cost, but we'll also be bringing home the environmental burdens of manufacturing (the negative externalities) which we've been pushing onto other countries and ignoring for decades. In the meantime, other countries have started to learn how to handle those externalities, like China's big push for solar power. In America, we've got an idiot who is rolling back worker safety, health and environmental protections, the list goes on. So even if these tariffs worked, we're going to be living in a less healthy place, all in the name of jobs...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with the tariffs; even if those weren't happening Trump would be selling the trees off to his cronies anyway. It's a blatantly corrupt kleptocracy.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It has everything to do with lumber tariffs, it's just the other end of the equation. The forests are the supply, and the tariffs will create the demand.

[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 months ago

They are privatizing every single thing.

Nothing to do with Tariffs. They just make the business more juicy for his cronies.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One can make useful items out of wood.

Guillotines, for example…

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] snipon@feddit.dk 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I, for one, would love to see the guy every Christian pretends is the reincarnation of Christ on a crucifix.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

even better!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The trees can't be harmed if the lorax is armed. You touch his trees, he aims for your knees.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago

Go go go, Tonya Harding!

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Trump has two legs. Just sayin

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Black Knight always triumphs!

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

It's just a flesh wound!

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

So just cut one off. Gotcha

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 161 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck. This kind of shit is why I feel the need for revenge on these people. They're slashing forests and impoverishing the population. It's not enough for them to lose an election. they need to pay

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

I want my pound of fucking flesh.

load more comments