1930 was about money supply. That's when bitcoin and all the other crypto coins will be handy.
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Maybe depression is the goal along with the whole gamut of initiatives whose only logical aggregate result would be the weakening of the United States
Seems fairly easy to accomplish when an entire political party's ideology is built upon a foreign power's propaganda
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Thanks for the insight, stacy! By the way, why are you still posting on a nazi platform? Oh for internet points? Cool, cool.
Edit: Damn, there's more nazis on Lemmy than I thought.
Because that's the platform that needs to hear it
Circlejerk preaching to the choir is fun, but doesn't reach the people who need to hear it
You’re right, we should send Bernie to CPAC. Bet he’ll win over lots of hearts and minds.
I honestly want to see this.
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There was also the McKinley Tariff of 1890 that is taxed foreign imports at almost 50% and caused increased prices and consumer backlash and lead to Democrats winning Congress in a landslide.
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The whole plan was to move production back to the US. The thing though is, that you can't make Americans sit and sew Jeans that sell sell for $15 or assemble electronics for $6/hr
Maybe you could 100 years ago, but there is s a reason why we trade across the world and its not because we are kind. It is because it makes companies more money.
This will be mostly messy for the US. The rest of the world now has tarrifs on the US. But US now has tarrifs on the whole world. Any other country can look into expanding in new markets now, but the US has shut all its doors
Yeah we can't make everything.
Not only do most of those low level factory jobs suck we simply don't have the workers, we're at less than 5% unemployment.
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Did anyone mention how the 1930 tariffs sparked a wave of retaliatory tariffs by other nations, greatly reducing international trade, pushing a natural resources poor Japan to conclude that in order to survive it needed an empire, so it invaded other countries, committing such atrocities that even Nazi Germany was like "whoa dude, chill", which lead to their participation in WWII, Pearl Harbor and the deployment of nuclear bombs? No?
Japan was expanding long before 1930's. Korea, Mongolia, and parts of China were already under Japan long before 1930.
But, the full scale invasion of China by happens around 1931, which then lead to the conflict that get China involved in WWII.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_incident
Yes, full scale. But they already occupied parts of China before 1930. It wasn't tariffs for Japan. It was sanctions on oil to force them to stop invading. Their response was to speed up invasions to secure oil.
Which I suppose goes to the heart of why tariffs and export restrictions are bad. A country that is pushed into a corner where it will be deprived of an essential commodity is highly incentived to fight for it...
Edit: to be clear, not defending Japan at all. Just considering possible implications
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Yeah that comment is wildly ignorant of Japan's actions and aspirations pre1930. Fuck Trump and these tariffs, mind you.
So you're saying that Japan threw a shit fit because it wasn't allowed to trade with other nations. Japan.
Fucking love it.
It’s also wrong on every account; Japan was already doing imperialist shit for decades and it wasn’t tariffs but oil sanctions to try to stymie their fuel supply that sent them raging.
It wasn’t American tariffs, we didn’t fucking matter nearly as much to the world before WWII as after
I'd like to see U.S become so weak that Natives are able to reclaim their land. Imagine them scalp those nazi regime supporting mfers. Brings a happy tear in my eye.
I theorize that this is why most/all US leaders have been pro-Israel. Because if they were anything else, the native population would be like "hey, so what about us and our stolen lands?" and US leaders will absolutely not deal with that.
Yes, that! Also for me U.S seems to think that somehow everyone from Middle-East is a terrorist, even though that they are the worst terrorists themselves alongside Russia and Israel.
I'm pretty sure it's the money. If minority groups were lobbying just as hard to both parties, the populist leaders would switch.
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Third time lucky.
Third time is a charm. No seriously this unhinged president will be the destruction of the nation as the Democrats predicted. It was fun while it lasted but since I'm not rich I'm screwed.
How did 1930 one caused a depression when we were in the 29' crack?
How did you measure the depth of it in feet?
I guess the same way we're still in the COVID crack
But is it also twenty-nine feet deep?
The tariffs didn't cause a crisis though.
Well, sure. The crisis was caused by spiraling inequality and rampant stock speculation due to inadequate regulation.
[Looks around at current circumstances in the US] Hmm...
if anyone has any questions about getting out of the country, ask away.
I'm a long-term traveler.
What tips or suggestions do you have for families with young kids?
Three big ones are:
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There are lots of international families, so they'll have company, support networks and infrastructure.
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There are tons of safe, affordable countries with easy access to good education.
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Native English speakers are all but guaranteed jobs as ESL teachers, so the parents will have access to available, steady income abroad.
A lot of people don't know about international schools, which is where most international families send their kids.
Other than the first two points, there are not many differences between my individual and family advice. For many families, moving from the US to a country like Thailand means safer, more affordable lives with a better quality of life.
What countries do you recommend that have the easiest visa requirements?
Cyprus sells passports, so if you have the money you can instantly become an EU citizen
I'm a white American that's been living in tijuana, Mexico for the last 9.5 years. I drive north to the US to go to work every day and drive south again to go home. The Mexican border police only check maybe 5% of cars that drive from US to Mexico, and when they check me they've only ever checked my car registration and/or passport. It's an extremely open border crossing when going south.
If you wanted to actually be legal, a temporary tourist visa to visit Mexico can be purchased for about 25 usd and allows you to stay for up to 6 months inside Mexico 🤷♂️ and when it expires you can buy a new one.
at this point, visas are very easy to get in general, but Thailand is still one of the easiest and is one of the friendliest and most affordable countries around.
if you're a US citizen, you have visa-free travel in Thailand for 60 days.
if you need a visa, go to the evisa website, thaievisa.go.th, fill out the form, pay the fee, they'll email you the visa in a couple days.
I usually recommend Thailand or somewhere in Southeast Asia as a first destination. good food, great healthcare, cheap living, great people, beautiful environment, and they're very used to travelers so there are local and expat support systems nationwide.
another nice thing about Southeast asia is that there are tons of other friendly places close by.
it's about as easy to live there as anywhere else, but the support systems and the country being very used to travelers might make first time travelers more comfortable.
oh PS thailand has a lot a lot of really good all you can eat buffets for 3 to 10 dollars per person.
Many European countries allow you to visit a maximum of 90 days within a 180 day period, so if you're rich enough, you can technically live there half your life.
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I've read in some unsubstantiated comments that the state of the authorities of Hungary is so fucked up, they barely check if you can bribe a family tree researcher to make up some BS that your grandparents were Hungarian.
Pretend they were 1956 refugees that never had papers in the US, find some people who actually got lost in 1956 that have birth certs in Hungary - like maybe killed by the Soviets - learn some elementary Hungarian, be white, and boom, EU citizenship.
I take no responsibility for this harebrained idea and reiterate that this is just some ridiculous thing I read back on Reddit way back when.
Hungary itself is leaning quite heavily into an authoritarian vibe these days. If one were to go this route, I’d recommend taking advantage of your new EU-citizen status and find permanent residence in a country with stronger democratic traditions.
Netherlands and the nordic countries are probably the top choices
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