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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Article 5 doesn't oblige members to take any particular action. It only says that an attack on one is an attack on all, and leaves it to each member to decide what actions, if any, they will take in response.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It says each member will assist the attacked party/parties, as it deems necessary.

My interpretation of the article is that assistance is mandatory. What type of assistance is up to the member to decide

https://www.nato.int/cps/fr/natohq/topics_110496.htm?selectedLocale=en

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prayers and likes is assistance right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Thou shall not, not, probably assist. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Article 5 is only an obligation to have a meeting if someone calls for a meeting. It is not as strong as propagandized.

Greece and Turkey often have clashes and it is never a NATO issue.

CIA pig vermin NATO chief, Rutte, said it would not be a NATO matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've never seen my former prime-minister been referenced as that :') - most certainly not my political colour, but why CIA pig vermin? He is most certainly a competent manager of the status quo, but as a leader spineless and without a vision (for a better world)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

NATO leaders are only allowed to be CIA pig vermin meant to force submission of other members to US. CIA agents dominate all colonial political parties, but it is only the most loyal that rise to NATO chief.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

Side note: If this administration does invade, just accept the invite to the group chat our drunken Secretary of Defense sends you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Check the article 5 requirement. I don't see any "unless another NATO country" exceptions.

Probably moot as all the US has to do is increase presence and wait for an "or else" moment, so that they can rely with "or else what?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Kind of like Czechoslovakia in WW2.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Obligation or not, it would set a frightening precedent of they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's a no win. Either NATO becomes ineffective because it won't honour it's agreement or WW3 starts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Whether or not they have to defend, if they don't, Greece and Erdogan will go to war.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

USA itself would violate it's own membership. With such an act it became the enemy of the NATO.

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