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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Recently found a pretty interesting video about China and how they combat homelessness (sorry on reddit). You can buy a 1 room apartment for $15.000 and the monthly costs are minimal. Of course I don't truly know if there really isn't any homelessness in China, but we absolutely have the technology to solve this problem lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Well, for 2022 I found that the average wage is 2600¥ or 330€ per month (with enormous differencs between the regions). That means a flat is 4 annual salaries on average, assuming ithe 15000$ or 14000€. That's not that much off a difference to Germany, where I am from.

So one could argue that this is just the advise "get a job and buy a house!!!" To a homeless person.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Never looked down on any homeless people in my entire life & would like to keep it that way.

My sister though, holy crap

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I see things like this it makes me so proud of my parents. They are the few people I know who do foster care because they care. They have actual love for every kid that ever walked through their doors. They have had so far 3 kids that moved back home at one point or another and for all 3 of them the only question They ever asked was "how soon do you want to move in?"

At the same time stuff like this hurts me because I always thought unconditional love was the standard growing up. The knowledge that most people didn't / don't have that is so sad.

Anyway on a side note I am going to call my folks and tell them how great they are.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never had a bad view of homeless people, even as a child, you gotta lack empathy to be in the position where you are adult and realise that they're not bad.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

FYi readers, I don't know the actual statistics on foster children who grow out of the system and how prevalent that is in the homeless population, but from what I know at least, particularly in my own time homeless, is that most homeless people are actually small families who live in their car or in someone's garage.

I think we need to do a lot better to show what poverty really looks like in the USA, because we picture the media-spun image of America that we have a huge middle-class in nice suburban homes, and then there's the "the poors" who are like, generic homeless dudes who are grizzled old bums warming their fingerless-gloved hands over a burning metal drum down in skid-row.

The reality of the distribution is the "middle class" in America is much, much smaller and more poor than most people realize. Most people who seem to "have it all" are in immense debt, and the larger percentage of families in the US are working poor, people who live in shared homes and apartments with too many other people, people who live in their car and go to work and school every day, people who live in motels and abandoned homes or who "Stay after work" to take advantage of the company showers before sleeping under the desk. These are not jokes or tropes or memes, this is really how many, many Americans live... in the wealthiest country in the world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There are an incredible number of people with gym memberships for access to the showers.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago

In addition to the appalling foster care kid stats for homeless, around 13% of homeless are veterans (obviously some qualify as both). Funny how support for the military dries up once they get discharged.

Then we have the complete lack of any kind of assistance for the mentally ill.

We shouldn't even pretend that we are civilized. We treat our fellow humans so barbarically.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This right here is my biggest fear for my daughter.

She’s lazy. She’s unfocused. She’s isolated.

She is one of the greatest artists I have ever encountered in my life. Bad shit seems to come with that. I am afraid that the world will never know it because she isolates almost completely.

Her mother died from breast cancer when she was 13. I have been so unkind to my body and I’m afraid I won’t be here long enough to help her the way she might end up needing it.

She has her step dad who has remained a big part of her life since her mom passed away. He’s a great man and she and her mother were very lucky that he’s the one she found. She can’t get along with any of her mom’s family. I believe that my wife would always look out for her, but I wish they’d get closer. Her mom made that hard by saying only days before she died, “If you replace me with that woman I will spend eternity rolling in my grave.”

I have survived in this world because of my mother and my uncle. Without them I would have been homeless over and over again. I wish she would get closer with her mom’s family. I can’t make her stay with them though. Her aunt takes her to school if she misses the bus, so maybe she’ll look out for her.

It keeps me awake at night more than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Has ADHD ever been ruled out? Cause being treated, this immensely increases the chances of a healthy and successfull adulthood...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We’ve been trying to get a diagnosis for a few years. Everyone seems to agree she has it, but they’re scared to medicate her because of my issues with addiction I guess.

We’re pushing the issue next week actually.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

A someone who became middle aged with it (ADHD), not knowing what it really was or how it was affecting me, it is worth the effort.

They didn’t really prepare me for how much being medicated would change my life. Not that it cures everything, but I had to deal with a profound sense of loss for a few weeks after getting setup.

I found it really hard when I started to remember all of the missed opportunities and experiences that this condition had taken from me over the years. If ADHD is the cause or a factor, she will thank you later.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

That happens. I dated someone who worked in a group home for foster kids and they try to set a kid up with some place to live, like an AFC home after they turn 18, but sometimes they don't have any options and get dropped off at a homeless shelter.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

I've been a homeless teen, thankfully it was over a decade now though.

Shit sucked. I get angry when I hear people make excuses about how homeless people are just lazy or trying to rip you off somehow. Like stfu you have no idea what it's like!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The reality if you're working class in America; we're all one really bad day and a few less people caring about us from being homeless.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While this is accurate, most people have a better chance of actually understanding it when you use the full quote.

We live in a world where people have to be convinced to care for and sympathize with those around them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's a great point. Wish more people would practice it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 176 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

fuck.

One in four foster kids will end up homeless.

https://nfyi.org/issues/homelessness/

up to 3 out of 10 homeless people are foster kids who aged out.

what the fuck.

I thought it was bad enough knowing about the veteran rights.

some of the studies show higher rates.

The studies. on the homeless children.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Also black families are over-policed, and their kids more likely to be put into foster care "National estimates suggest that 53% of Black children will experience CPS contact by age 18, as compared to 28% of White children" "We consider that, at their root, these inequities are the consequence of systemic racism: there is no inherent relationship between race and child maltreatment. Rather, race is a proxy for the societal and institutional privileges and oppressions people experience because of their membership in a racialized group" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9325927/

Movement for Family Power is a great advocacy organization if you want to get involved https://www.movementforfamilypower.org/

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you want more statistical horror, look up foster care to prison pipeline

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So when conservatives want to ban abortions they are basically trying to increase the flow in this pipeline to get more prison slave labor

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Multiple angles really.

Biggest one is that a child is both a financial and mental stress on a parent, and our society overwhelming believes that children are primarily the responsibility of the mother. By attacking abortion, they basically saying that every woman is just one sexual assault away from a lifetime of financial, emotional, mental and social duress.

The second reason is class stratification. The financial stresses impact less wealthy families or individuals disproportionately, and less wealthy people cannot afford to travel to areas where reproductive care is legal, nor can they afford the lawyers required to fight the potential criminal cases or just pay their fines. The rich conservatives bankrolling these anti-abortion groups aren't threatened or beholden to the policy they create.

The third reason is racism. Black women are more likely to seek abortions, partly because they suffer a higher incidence of sexual assault, but also because they have less access to reproductive resources and education. Republicans have dog whistled this in the past by trying to say that abortions are racist because black women have a disporportionate number of abortions, even going so far as to call it a Democrat genocide on African-Americans. This dog whistle shows their true intentions; force financial, mental, and social stress in ways that are "equal" along racial lines, but not "equitable".

You could say that religion is a 4th reason, but I don't consider it a real reason, and they cherry-pick their religious convictions anyway. You see those motherfuckers eating shellfish and wearing blended fibers all the time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well yeah, obviously.

It can't possibly be because of religion, because all of them would be damned to hell five times a day for several other reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

People can easily justify their own sin because they know exactly what motivates them, which is usually some other bullshit they justified to themselves already.

I have witnessed some serious mental gymnastics in my life regarding such things.

I knew a man so religious that he wouldn’t dream of letting a woman live with him if he wasn’t married to her, but he wasn’t really cheating on their two decade long relationship, because they weren’t married.

And boy oh boy, a personal relationship with god affords you all sorts of leeway. Throughout the history of Christianity, what the church had to say was very important. Not anymore. The religion has evolved so that every man is a priest, and Jesus is just wearing shades and riding shotgun wherever they go.

“I’ve never actually read the bi-buhl, but I have a personal relationship with Christ so… and when I have trouble, I just open a random page and read until I find something I relate to. That’s how he guides me, that and the feelings I have in my heart.”

Amazes me.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

10000% yes. The easiest people to manipulate are the desperate and manipulators love dangling carrots.

What's worse is that this is easily recognizable but nothing will ever be done about the nutjobs who enjoy watching others suffer at their hand.

There is no reason to believe we don't live in hell

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep, people are only a commodity to be manipulated by the capitalist systems

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