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This might be relevant to those who wish / have to use Windows 11:

This week, Microsoft made it very clear that it wants to block the popular BYPASSNRO workaround, used to skip the internet and Microsoft Account requirement checks during the Windows 11 installation OOBE (initial setup), although thankfully, the script can still be created using Registry edits.

A 7 step guide.

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[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People who can't or don't want to use Linux should just use Windows LTSC or IOT. It's honestly the next best thing. I just set it up for my brother. When you open up the start menu on the fresh install and there is nothing there out of the box, it's such a nice feeling. No ads, no games, no onedrive, nothing. The only thing LTSC has is Microsoft Edge but even that one you can uninstall.

Licenses are expensive, but you can easily activate it with mas.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Meta : I'd be curious to know the ratio of people downvoting the "Linux!" suggestion who actually do so from Windows.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"Linux is far too complex for the common person to use."

Installing windows without your data being harvested: 7 steps, then editing registry files, uninstalling most of the programs that come with it and get reinstalled with every update, use this command prompt, download this program from a random website you've never heard of before...

Installing Linux without your data being harvested: Click continue.

Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

In the vast VAST majority of "normal" use cases, which I'd argue for most people it's :

  • Web browsing
  • watching videos or listening to music
  • editing text documents, spreadsheets, presentations
  • playing video games
  • managing files, e.g. moving them in directories, compressing them, etc
  • keeping the system up to date
  • using a printer

there are reliable ways to use a GUI. So... even though IMHO the command line is absolutely worth learning, one can perfectly use Linux my "just" clicking their way around.

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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've swapped back and forth between Linux and Windows a half dozen times now, and I can honestly say, both are a bitch to set up from a clean install.

Even with guides and autoloading scripts and whatnot, it's still going to be a few days of pain while you try to figure out what else needs to be installed to use the computer the way you want to use it.

Or that's how it works for me.

I mostly just wish more games were linux native.

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[–] Commander_Keen@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

Let’s just not install windows?

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

LINUX. Jesus it's fucking Linux.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use linux for everything except for one critical app that does not yet work on linux outside of a virtual machine. But, my computer is not powerful enough to run it in a virtual machine.

There are also no alternatives to it either. So, I have a second computer to use windows for just that, but the day it works on linux is the day I say bye to windows forever.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There are also no alternatives to it either

Just curious, what is it?

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[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is dual booting not an option for you?

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[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a civilization, we need to accept that we can no longer continue to depend on Microsoft Windows to use our computers. Hopefully the transition will go through without Microsoft having the opportunity to try to save themselves.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 7 points 1 month ago

I don't think we are even close to getting critical mass but there gamers can be converted pretty easily now.

Each time micro-shit does a thing, Linux gets more users.

Prolly will take another decade or two but Linux will hit that critical mass.

Every day more people find out that Linux is part of the freedom tool set.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who actually uses Microsoft Windows?

[–] TheGreyGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mostly companies who have platform specific software that would cost to much to replace or take to long to replace. There’s still companies that run ancient versions of OSs like Pre Mac OS X and Windows 95 because there’s simply no newer OS that can run a specific software besides that OS.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And very many small users who are used to it, buy it already installed and are unable to do anything about it. It seems people often forget normies exist.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Isnt it still cheaper to run that legacy crap in wine or a VM?

[–] TheGreyGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

There are some issues with VMs and WINE that make the actual hardware & OS more appealing. I’ve heard of issues like the VM won’t start or there’s instabilities in the VM itself that makes things more difficult. Wine and compatibility layers like it can and do have issues with obscure software or it can’t run the software properly or at all.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

1 step guide: Linux

Yes yes I know it's not, but still easier and faster than setting up a new Windows install, getting drivers and installing updates.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Looks better than my solution which was to join the machine to a domain then add a local account after. I always add a local account of my machines then add them to a domain. Simple fact is they want to trap people in their walled garden and it isn't going that well for them.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

I'm sure it's going really well because the vast majority probably just give in.

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Recently needed to set up a Win11 VM. It worked after removing the network adaptor from the VM setup, and then using the bypassnro command.

Fucking Microsoft.

[–] _carmin@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Ok, but how does this affect Linux?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

How to setup your desktop as a desktop: only 7 steps!

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, it's only gonna be a matter of time before they remove this. I can almost guarantee that.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No, it'll always exist because corporate and government contracts are not putting up with a requirement to have a Microsoft account.

That's only something that poor people have to do.

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