What the fuck headline is that. No, we haven't done that, because we're careful about that shit.
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...we've all violated national security oaths and SCIF protocol?..yeah, no...
He should've just jumped in when they were all sending emojis
!That’s why the Trump administration’s Signalgate blunder was all anyone could talk about on news shows and social media, in workplaces, even in schools, said New York University psychology professor Tessa West.
Even West’s 11-year-old son came home from school Monday and confessed that he, too, had once added the wrong person to a group chat. “Mommy I did that, I did exactly what those Trump people did,” he told her.
“For 11-year-old boys, this is the most relatable thing that the Trump administration has done, which just shows you just how ubiquitous this experience is from Slack channels to group chats,” West said. “We’ve all done this.”!<
What a trash article. It reads like propaganda. This kind of reporting is frustrating. Framing a serious security breach—like the Trump administration's Signal group chat blunder—as relatable because “even an 11-year-old has done it” feels disingenuous at best. Using a child’s anecdote to soften the impact of a significant government mistake trivializes the issue and distracts from the consequences of the breach.
We’re not talking about accidentally texting the wrong person in a school group chat. We’re talking about high-level officials mistakenly including someone in a discussion tied to sensitive military operations. That’s not “relatable”—that’s a failure in operational security, and it deserves scrutiny, not spin.
We're also talking about high-level people illegally using a non-qualified app to avoid federal record keeping laws.
We've all bombed Yemen!
We've all done it.
I might even bomb Yemen next month… I mean I’m not going to tell a reporter about it, though, I’m not as stupid as an 11-year-old boy.
Wow. USA today is complete Nazi propaganda good to know
What the every loving fuck is this shit?
"Omg, who hasn't accidentally broken the espionage act? Lol, omg. #relatable"
Jesus fucking Christ. This isn't the fucking "umm, actually" of War Thunder blunders either. This is actionable, real-time intelligence on an unsecured civilian app. This isn't some cutesy fuck up, this is big, bad shit.
Fucking hell
War Thunder was worse especially since it has happened multiple times.
It is crazy how this stuff leaks
I can’t think of a time when I added the wrong person to a group chat. I’m sure it’s happened, but probably not in the past 10-15 years.
And my online chats are pretty low-stakes, so it’s not like I’m trying very hard.
A few friends of mine used to have a sms-based group chat we used for many years. One of those friends kept losing phones and getting new numbers. At some point one of his older numbers texted something to the tune of "what the fuck is this, why are you texting me?!". It turns out the old number had been reassigned.
then again, no state secrets were exchanged.
We've all screwed up on a text message.
We haven't all chosen to use an insecure app for sensitive military operations to avoid foia requests to hide future treason charges and then screwed up a text message.
Signal is fine
Users are the weakest link
Just to clarify, signal is open source and it's code has been vetted by cryptography experts. The signal protocol is secure, it's the user who screwed up.
Now that doesn't excuse the illegal action of using the app to avoid foia requests, but the app and it's protocol were not the failing here.
My understanding is that it auto deletes after a short set time. I'm not saying signal is a failure of an app for personal use, I'm saying choosing it for this purpose is a fail.
You can set it up to auto delete, but that's not the default. Either way agreed, it's a major failing in this purpose.
USA Today working overtime for its shareholders.
I'm sure my company's policies are nothing special and lots of companies have similar policies. I'm not allowed to do anything work related on my personal devices, only on the company issued and managed laptop and only through the company VPN. I'm also not allowed to discuss internal information on whatever app I want, just on company approved software, which is managed by the company's IT team. All software or other type of 3rd party used in the company has to first go through infosec approval.
This is a standard tech company not working on anything particularly sensitive for anyone other than potential competition and maybe shareholders. Definitely not anything involving national security.
So no, not relatable. This is how people get fired.
The CEOs are always allowed to break the rules though...
I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a girl he met in a restaurant...
who then turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist...
only to lose her to her childhood lover...
who she'd last seen on a deserted island...
and who turned out, 15 years later, to be the leader of the French underground.
"Skeet Surfing" is my jam.
One of Mel Tormé's best songs.
That sounds like some Kojima level shit right there. Just needs a giant mech threatening a nuclear strike.
Sorry but you don't get to have something you do be "relatable" after you've tried to end somebody's career over a milder version of it.
uh no i've never accidentally added a journalist to a group chat while laughing about bombing people in the middle east.
You gotta admit, though, that 11-year-old boy might make a good Secretary of Defense after this one.
signalgate blunder
Can we fucking not add “-gate” to the end of everything that happens? It’s so overused that it diminishes the importance of actually-dangerous events like this one.
Avoiding hackneyed terms would literally be a Game Changer!
It all started with that Watergategate scandal.
What happens if we have a scandal about water?
Hydrogate
Rolls off the tongue better than aquagate would, that's for sure.
Buttery males, though...
Might be relatable, but it ain’t excusable. Not even a little bit.
They all need to be impeached and jailed for this.
There was a work chat where people would joke and vent and bitch and complain. Only the lowest level employees were invited. One of my coworkers invited one of the higher ranking employees and all the fun had to stop.
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