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First term a lot of people considered leaving but frankly it didn't feel like this.

Mods: I am unsure if this question goes against rule 2 or not. I mean to ask this as the general situation but of course it is political. The wording of the rule makes it unclear if politics are allowed or not...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The US is under the impression that it won the Cold War against Russia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zm4eqvp7o

In an interview with pro-Trump journalist Tucker Carlson, Witkoff (Trump's special envoy to Ukraine) praised Vladimir Putin, saying he "liked" the Russian president.

"I don't regard Putin as a bad guy," he said. "He's super smart."

During the interview, Witkoff repeated various Russian arguments, including that Ukraine was "a false country" and asked when the world would recognise occupied Ukrainian territory as Russian.

Witkoff is leading the US ceasefire negotiations with both Russia and Ukraine but he was unable to name the five regions of Ukraine either annexed or partially occupied by Russian forces.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nothing so threatening the Democrats would block it when they had the chance.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The time to leave if you're able to was in his first term.

We got out, no regrets, and we're not going back.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you want to know where it is going in the short-term, have a look at Orban's Hungary. Rightwing populist voted in and then got to work at dismantling the state. Control judges appointments, curb the power of the judicial branch, silence critical media, pick a group to scapegoat, buddy of Putin. The list goes on. Democracy only works if people defend it and from my outside POV there aren't enough people doing that just yet. It's worse in Trump 2.0 because this time he came prepared.

There are already horror stories about people being caught up wrongly in the deportation efforts. That's using very mild language for very traumatic events here. It's come to a point where erstwhile allies of the US are advising their citizens not to travel to the US. Because they have lost faith in the rule of law there. Take a minute to let that sink in.

If you're a US citizen, resist. The free state is under threat. If you're an immigrant, be careful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

horror stories about people being caught up wrongly in the deportation

You mean people who are caught up rightfully in deportation are treated with dignity, right? Right?

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Half of my friend’s family is gone and ICE is inching toward gestapo territory. It’s pretty bad

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Were they legal? No judgement from me either way, but if they were make sure you include it when you tell people. I have some folks I am scared for and everybody's argument to me has been "They're only taking felons" or "they're only taking illegals"

I don't think so. So if you see them take somebody who has papers tell everybody.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

They might not know all the details. Even between people who've known each other for a long time it's not common to know their precise legal status, and that goes double for family/friends of a friend.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

Illegalish, no criminal history, quite possibly the kindest folks you’ll ever meet, formerly on track for citizenship until trump. What really got us was how quiet it was. Just gone one day. No lawyer, no calls. They simply ceased to exist for a time

I hope never to have to report deportation of a legal citizen or resident, but I will.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago

The issue isn't whether or not their documented or felons, it's that they didn't have a trial so they didn't have a chance to prove either way

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure 'inching' is the right word here. 'Speedrunning' might be more suitable

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A lot of innocent people are being/will be displaced unfortunately. [He] wants to undo everything that his predecessor has achieved. It is never too late to consider leaving.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Biden and Dems pushed hard against immigrants and beefed up ICE.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I just don’t get going after innocent people

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Despite the rhetoric there's not enough criminals to mass deport.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Catching real criminals is hard. Pretending innocent people are criminals is easy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

that reminded me to check how Duterte's trial is going

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

To create fear, distrust, confusion, anger, distraction, and validate the base's hatred of whichever "outgroups" are being blamed for everything. If you fit a profile, they put you in a box. Doesn't matter if you're "innocent" or the reason for the government fucking with you or deporting you is a mistake anymore because agencies like ICE and DHS are so deeply compromised as to not follow any rule of law.

This shit happens all throughout human history in dictatorships and fascist states.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Because he’s a cunt

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i've made a list of the things that i care most about where i live and are different from the rest of the country and have decided that i need to have my emigrations plans in motion when the first of them is made illegal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Embrace the differences.

Where we moved there are no shops open Sunday and it is soooooo refreshing NOT to have every whim available 24/7.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As someone in the process of leaving, get it in motion NOW. Emigrating takes time. This goes for anyone looking who is at the current situation and weighing their options:

Visas and immigration laws aside, there's a lot that goes into leaving the country. Get all your finances in order, make a plan for how to move your stuff, and think about how long it would take you to trim down literally everything you own to just the essentials. If you have family or pets, this goes for them as well. Start going through your stuff and seeing that you can donate. Get as much stuff packed as you can. Make a bugout bag, fill it with at least 1 week's worth of clothes and all your essentials (I keep ~3 months of meds in mine). Get a small firesafe and put all your legal paperwork in it. Stockpile your prescriptions if you can. Make sure your car is ready to drive if you're driving, otherwise have a plan to get rid of it. Withdraw cash in small bills.

You want to be as prepared as possible

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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