“Oh no, the consequences of my actions!”
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I will say though, I've been suspicious he's had long standing plans to just dump Tesla at some point in the near future anyway. I'm hopeful the point he was planning to jump ship and sell off his stock has gotten beyond his control and he can't do it without majorly fucking himself over.
Aside from everything else he's done to get deeply involved in the oil and gas industry, what made me really suspicious was when DOGE removed all EV charging stations from federal buildings for not being "mission critical."
If he thinks civil war is necessary but doesn’t think corporations will be casualties… then what does he define as civil war? Where less important things die? you know, those umm.. soft gelatinous things. People, yes people are expendable.
This soft and gelatinous thing looks forward to a place to expend his umm, anger and frustration.
Common Sense Skeptic's videos sure are fun to watch again.
I'm still not convinced that isn't just insurance fraud to try to recoup some money for junky cars no one wants while pretending he's a political victim.
Good luck getting that proven in a court
Does any of court even matter anymore when the president is in your back pocket?
Exactly
The funny thing is the first tweet was right, just wrong in his intention. I don't see this ending without a civil war.
It's what they want. They are gambling on it.
I think it's what we want too at this point though.
Serious question, what are we meant to do with all the die-hard Trumpers? Like there are people who are willing to kill for him, people who have gladly sacrificed their relationships with their friends and family for him. Even in the absolute fantasy world where the U.S. gov could be fixed via electoralism, we'd still have about a third of the country that is hungry to kill the other 2/3rds.
At this point it looks like our options are either re-education camps, or bloodshed.
I think it's a trap. I think liberal institutions need to actually unify and resources. Money talks. Nothing about that has changed. Buying out board seats within corporate media, flooding the zone with lawsuits, staging organized major protests around the country, continuing to press back on right wing controlled social media (e.g. Facebook and Twitter). Think of it like laying a sort of political and legal siege to slow them down and starve them out rather than giving them what they want. Will that work? I have no idea, but I know walking into a trap surely won't.
I don't understand how you guys down south are still asking this question? It's obvious to us up in Canada, how is it not clear to you that you are ALSO and probably even moreso going through an existential threat. Get prepared, be ready, start that now. I know we are.
maybe because it would be nice to avoid having our entire country kill each other? Maybe because all the people who have been brainwashed by our right-wing propoganda centers don't really deserve to die just because they were duped?
What, are we supposed to be happy that we're rapidly heading towards the bloodiest conflict America has ever seen, just full speed ahead on death and destruction? You think it's pointless to even try and care about the monumental loss of life?
Homie, you need to mentally prepare for the equivalent of what people went through during WWII.
As long as they don't step into canada, all that will be waiting is a bullet and a disgraceful burial.
They are going to do it from within Canada, just like they've done elsewhere. That infection already exists in Canada. Just hope it doesn't spread.
I think you underestimate my pentiant for violence. If the buzzer gets buzzed my muzzle is off.
The best thing about this is that Tesla is massively overvalued. Like, the stock price is more than 20x what it should be based on Tesla's earnings.
If Tesla had a reasonable value, then hedge fund managers and other rich people would probably be buying it while it was temporarily down and getting rich as it went back up. But, with it so insanely overvalued, it's much more likely they'll short it or buy put options and hope to get rich when it finally crashes.
Relatively speaking, Tesla is far less overvalued than in the past.
At one point their market cap exceeded every other automaker in the world COMBINED.
That might make sense if they were making unprecedented loads of money but of course they got trounced in sales compared to Toyota then and now.
Yes, it was at something like 30x overvalued, now it's only 20x overvalued.
Glad you mentioned Toyota. Their P/E ratio is approximately 7. Tesla is approximately 100. If Tesla were a well run car company with a lot of good vehicles and an anonymous CEO who nobody hates, the fair value of their stock would be about $14 per share. It's currently $236 per share.
Someone is going to make mountains of money shorting Tesla stock, but unfortunately it's going to be someone rich. The market can remain irrational much longer than normal people can remain solvent. Some rich dude is going to take the risk though and make out like a bandit.
NOOOOO don't look at P/E ratios (the auto sector has always had extraordinarily low P/E ratios) you have to look at relative PEG ratios!
At least that was the copium years ago. Now that their sales growth has petered out globally (even before all of the President Musk backlash) and China has free-money'd their way to a technological advantage for EVs I don't even understand it anymore. The other automakers are either caught up or rapidly approaching and the thing I've been saying for years (PHEVs are superior to BEVs for most people) is being proven true.
Before I called it hysteria and FOMO and blind optimism but now I just don't get it.
How the hell do Elon and other oligarchs feel so safe to call for a literal civil war? He thinks the other side cares more about fighting Joe Bob more than the billionaires? Such strange delusional behavior
Historically, that is how elites have always maintained their power, so yes. It’s just a lot more difficult to 1) mobilize an overworked and comfort-seeking populace, and 2) we are more interconnected than ever before.
The power of propaganda is being seized by the people. We create the content. We cover current and localized events (in actual real time) because it’s our actual communities. We know who is who and what is what.
I like it when Nazi man-children cry.
Just cry?
What did he think was going to happen?
Like everyone down there, they feel it will happen to everyone else, not them.
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