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Is Elon crying now? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

😭🎻

https://www.marinelink.com/news/elon-musks-firm-buys-two-offshore-rigs-484690

https://www.worldoil.com/news/2021/1/25/elon-musk-s-gas-drilling-plans-in-texas-meet-legal-resistance

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2025/03/17/power-hungry-ai-data-centers-seek-more-quick-and-dirty-mobile-gas-turbines/

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/nx-s1-5088134/elon-musk-ai-xai-supercomputer-memphis-pollution

🎻😭

I will say though, I've been suspicious he's had long standing plans to just dump Tesla at some point in the near future anyway. I'm hopeful the point he was planning to jump ship and sell off his stock has gotten beyond his control and he can't do it without majorly fucking himself over.

Aside from everything else he's done to get deeply involved in the oil and gas industry, what made me really suspicious was when DOGE removed all EV charging stations from federal buildings for not being "mission critical."

https://gizmodo.com/u-s-government-removing-ev-chargers-from-all-federal-buildings-because-they-are-not-mission-critical-2000566987

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

If he thinks civil war is necessary but doesn’t think corporations will be casualties… then what does he define as civil war? Where less important things die? you know, those umm.. soft gelatinous things. People, yes people are expendable.

This soft and gelatinous thing looks forward to a place to expend his umm, anger and frustration.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Common Sense Skeptic's videos sure are fun to watch again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still not convinced that isn't just insurance fraud to try to recoup some money for junky cars no one wants while pretending he's a political victim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Good luck getting that proven in a court

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing is the first tweet was right, just wrong in his intention. I don't see this ending without a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's what they want. They are gambling on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 minutes ago

I think it's what we want too at this point though.

Serious question, what are we meant to do with all the die-hard Trumpers? Like there are people who are willing to kill for him, people who have gladly sacrificed their relationships with their friends and family for him. Even in the absolute fantasy world where the U.S. gov could be fixed via electoralism, we'd still have about a third of the country that is hungry to kill the other 2/3rds.

At this point it looks like our options are either re-education camps, or bloodshed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

As long as they don't step into canada, all that will be waiting is a bullet and a disgraceful burial.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The best thing about this is that Tesla is massively overvalued. Like, the stock price is more than 20x what it should be based on Tesla's earnings.

If Tesla had a reasonable value, then hedge fund managers and other rich people would probably be buying it while it was temporarily down and getting rich as it went back up. But, with it so insanely overvalued, it's much more likely they'll short it or buy put options and hope to get rich when it finally crashes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Relatively speaking, Tesla is far less overvalued than in the past.

At one point their market cap exceeded every other automaker in the world COMBINED.

That might make sense if they were making unprecedented loads of money but of course they got trounced in sales compared to Toyota then and now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it was at something like 30x overvalued, now it's only 20x overvalued.

Glad you mentioned Toyota. Their P/E ratio is approximately 7. Tesla is approximately 100. If Tesla were a well run car company with a lot of good vehicles and an anonymous CEO who nobody hates, the fair value of their stock would be about $14 per share. It's currently $236 per share.

Someone is going to make mountains of money shorting Tesla stock, but unfortunately it's going to be someone rich. The market can remain irrational much longer than normal people can remain solvent. Some rich dude is going to take the risk though and make out like a bandit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

NOOOOO don't look at P/E ratios (the auto sector has always had extraordinarily low P/E ratios) you have to look at relative PEG ratios!

At least that was the copium years ago. Now that their sales growth has petered out globally (even before all of the President Musk backlash) and China has free-money'd their way to a technological advantage for EVs I don't even understand it anymore. The other automakers are either caught up or rapidly approaching and the thing I've been saying for years (PHEVs are superior to BEVs for most people) is being proven true.

Before I called it hysteria and FOMO and blind optimism but now I just don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How the hell do Elon and other oligarchs feel so safe to call for a literal civil war? He thinks the other side cares more about fighting Joe Bob more than the billionaires? Such strange delusional behavior

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Historically, that is how elites have always maintained their power, so yes. It’s just a lot more difficult to 1) mobilize an overworked and comfort-seeking populace, and 2) we are more interconnected than ever before.

The power of propaganda is being seized by the people. We create the content. We cover current and localized events (in actual real time) because it’s our actual communities. We know who is who and what is what.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I like it when Nazi man-children cry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Just cry?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What did he think was going to happen?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Like everyone down there, they feel it will happen to everyone else, not them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does anyone else think the "happening in my town of (insert town name here)" is a bot account he set up to blow up small isolated incidents?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their handle "Elizabeth for NV" would suggest that they might be a politician or political candidate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Or a bot that's been optimized to operate in the "NV" region

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