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Black hole cosmology suggests that the Milky Way and every other observable galaxy in our universe is contained within a black hole that formed in another, much larger, universe.

The theory challenges many fundamental models of the cosmos, including the idea that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.

It also provides the possibility that black holes within our own universe may be the boundaries to other universes, opening up a potential scenario for a multiverse.

Mine blown 🀯

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I've kinda thought that were some n-dimension universe getting sucked into an n-dimension black hole, and what happens as that universe crosses the event horizon is the big bang, the arrow of time. And all of the matter and forces that have them appearing to interact is just some beautiful n-dimension spaghettification.

The universe isn't expanding; all mafter within it is shrinking, being crushed. all matter appears to be accelerating further and further away because, well, it is. From our perspective.

Think of our whole universe as the most epic allegory of the cave possible.

I'll go back to ripping my bong now.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the idea that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe

I always thought this was the consensus, but turns out, it was just as far back as we can go where physics as we know it work. Not everyone claimed that nothing existed before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

nothing existed before

Thing is that there's no "before", because time itself started with the big bang. The questions to ask are: is there anything other than our universe, and does that even matter? If nothing can get in or out of our universe, then there's no way to prove the existence of anything outside of it and there's zero impact one way or another.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That why our timeline seems to keep radically changing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Sooooo the expanse was right?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whoa.

If this is true, this makes sense to me. Right or wrong, I’ve never been comfortable with the idea of infinite, endless space. Like God just existing for all time, never having a start or a stop is a cheap way of admitting we just don’t know, and may never know. Why does β€œGod” and the universe get to be treated differently than everything else? Things come from other things.

I digress. I have often daydreamed that our universe only appears infinite because it’s actually a sphere or a bubble, and what we see as infinite is merely a reflection of our finite space like an infinity mirror would look.

But those ideas are just that: daydreams. If anything, I hope that the scientific and academic communities can keep open minds and not dismiss these radical ideas because it contradicts their religious fervor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God was created by man. Change my mind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

β€œGod” is what people use to explain the unexplainable. Change my mind.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Go Wildcats!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why aren't we all spaghetti, then?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

All the matter in our universe was sucked into the black hole and then coalesced into all the forms that exist now. (Presumably, and if this hypothesis is true)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Man, this is so cool!!

[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Using data from Nasa’s James Webb Space Telescope, researchers at Kansas State University in the US discovered that the majority of the galaxies were rotating in the same direction.

This goes against previous assumptions that our universe is isotropic, meaning there should be an equal number of galaxies rotating clockwise and anticlockwise.

β€œIt is not clear what causes this to happen, but there are two primary possible explanations,” said Lior Shamir, associate professor of computer science at Kansas State University.

β€œOne explanation is that the universe was born rotating. That explanation agrees with theories such as black hole cosmology, which postulates that the entire universe is the interior of a black hole.”

yeah it's just the most headline grabbing possibility

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have always wondered about this and it's always been the question I would want to ask neil degrasse tyson about if I ever met him... I never realized there was a term for it or even other people believed it...

My other crazy theory is that we are always in a state of jumping between realities... As a state of self preservation... We exist in the reality where we keep living. With the possibility of realities being infinite and the possibility of a subset of those infinites being basically the same as the one you're in...

Who knows maybe it's just a reassuring way to be happy knowing that one day your actually going to die instead of all those times you have felt like you have almost died being truly a time you have died...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As I understand it, the idea of Quantum Immortality is a bit more nuanced then that. It's not that you would be "jumping between realities". It's more-so that, as the reality where you are alive is the only one you can possibly be aware of, any reality where you would die simply wouldn't be seen by you. The splits where the potential to die exist would only be seen as "close calls" to the consciousness that is you. It's more so a resolution of logic than a cross-dimensional mind swap. A pop-culture example of this is sort of seen in

Movie nameThe Prestige.

Extra Major plot spoilerQuick summary - in the movie, Hugh Jackman's character gets access to a machine that instantly duplicates him, which he uses for his magic shows. To resolve the "small" issue of there being an ever multiplying amount of him, he has a mechanism to immediately drown the version of him on stage when they disappear as the other version reveals himself elsewhere in the theater. At one point, he talks about how he was always terrified that he would be the one being drowned. There's a few interesting things about this particular line, the most pertinent one being that he is never the version that gets drowned, evident from the fact he is talking about it. Obviously this is just fiction, but I think it's a good illustration of the concept. There are also a lot of details left nebulous, possible details of which could suggest Destructive Teleportation instead.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our consciousness continuously transferring between realities to stay alive is kinda crazy ngl

What's the big question you've always wondered about though? It's not clear from your comment

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If the whole observable galaxy is inside a black hole...

Black holes get bigger and expand as does our observable universe... I always wondered if the two were connected...

But from reading everything in this post it seems like the theory doesn't hold up... But also who knows...

I like my other theory better anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

If we are going based off of evidence to support it, I wouldn't go crazy for your other theory either

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My theory is that the Big Bang is local and there have been other big bangs outside our observable universe and our entire existence is inside a multi trillion year expanding and contracting space foam

Big Crunch and white holes and all that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_(time)

The concept of recreation is pretty old

[–] [email protected] 253 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Dude, after reading the paper from start to finish, this whole thing seems off.

  • The guy's an associate professor of computer science and has no degree in cosmology, but he's talking about cosmological implications of these findings.
  • Every single paper cited supporting his argument was written by himself (in exactly one case, it was written by himself and a coauthor). In total, Shamir cites himself ~~106~~ 130 times.
  • Numerous other papers by numerous other authors (some mentioned by this paper in attempted rebuttals) using a variety of methodologies find this not to be the case.
  • It violates the cosmological principle used by major and highly successful models of the universe.
  • The way he performed this analysis was an algorithm which he wrote. When he cites papers that have used this algorithm, he only cites himself, indicating no other academic in the world has thought this algorithm is seriously useful for this application.
  • When speaking to The Independent (which is of really middling quality), instead of speaking about the data itself and how he arrived at it, he (again with no formal background in cosmology) starts talking about the most clickbaity possible implications of this data.

It's totally possible Shamir is right and that there really is a massive bias. That would be extremely cool. However, he's published numerous papers on this over the last decade yet still seems to be the only one who agrees with it. Which to me is highly unusual.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago

Can I just say your thoroughness here is a real fucking impressive skill. Thank you for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

This guy reads.

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