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New Nasa data hints we could be living inside a black hole (www.independent.co.uk)

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Black hole cosmology suggests that the Milky Way and every other observable galaxy in our universe is contained within a black hole that formed in another, much larger, universe.

The theory challenges many fundamental models of the cosmos, including the idea that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.

It also provides the possibility that black holes within our own universe may be the boundaries to other universes, opening up a potential scenario for a multiverse.

Mine blown 🤯

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[+] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is an observation consistent with black hope cosmology, but other explanations are possible too, so nobody is claiming it's proof

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

… black hope …

Thanks Obama

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

LOL. Oops. Edited.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Some of the findings match a pre-existing pipe dream but this boring alternative is pretty neat too:

The latest findings do not provide definitive proof of black hole cosmology, with more evidence required to fully understand the implications.

Shamir noted that an alternative explanation for why most of the galaxies in the study rotate clockwise is that the Milky Way’s rotational velocity is having an impact on the measurements.

“If that is indeed the case, we will need to re-calibrate our distance measurements for the deep universe,” said Shamir.

"The re-calibration of distance measurements can also explain several other unsolved questions in cosmology such as the differences in the expansion rates of the universe and the large galaxies that according to the existing distance measurements are expected to be older than the universe itself.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay so I have a basic understanding of orbital mechanics, I would say astronomy and astrophysics is a hobby of mine, and my content subscription list is filled with space nerds talking about nerdy space stuff.

I do not understand how the rotation of the milky way could be making it seem as though other galaxies are rotating a specific direction.

I understand if you spin in place and are looking at something above you that's spinning in a certain way, it might appear to spin the opposite way it is relative to the floor, because you're spinning faster. However, my problem understanding stems from the fact that the milky way is huge and we are rotating around a very large axis, not at a rate that my common sense tells me would be noticeable.

Maybe I'm just not giving NASA and ESA enough credit for their measurement capabilities, but I don't get it.

And maybe I'm so far off base someone is face-palming into their screen in disappointment that I could choose be so wrong.

If anyone could explain, or post a link to a space nerd talking about nerdy space stuff thats relevant to the answer, please edumacate me!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah it's like either I don't understand 3D space or they don't. Clockwise to what? What if you go stand on the South Pole, does it all reverse? Maybe they need to read Enders Game again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That alternative idea seems like an Occam's Razor type explanation. I like it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's funny how often surprising results are just "ah shoot my bad. Tool is busted"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The research was published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in a study titled ‘The distribution of galaxy rotation in JWST Advanced Deep Extragalactic Survey’.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to that research?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/538/1/76/8019798