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A controversial proposal from U.S Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to let bird flu naturally spread through poultry farms is raising alarms among scientists -- who say the move could be inhumane and dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn’t he worried one of his falcons will catch it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They're wearing masks.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a fucking disgrace he is to the Kennedy legacy. I hope he gets swallowed by a whale or gets eaten by a bear or a worm eating his brain.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Anyone have the quotes handy on how they want to destroy the country and rebuild as feudal kingdoms?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess that would succeed in killing off a bunch of the elderly and infirmed, which be a huge savings to Medicare and social Security, so it's a win-win right?

/S if it wasn't implied already

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That is exactly how the Nazis in charge are thinking about this. They assume they'll make it through because they're constitutionally superior, while the weak die and are no longer a burden on the Übermenschen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

also their largest voting base

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, they don't need to vote anymore

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If bird flu is such a minor issue, I say we inject it into Donald Trump, JD Vance, RFK Jr., and Elon Musk. Demonstrate how safe it is. Do it. Come on. DO IT YOU WUSSES.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yes. Tell them we need their ubermensch genetics to base a cure on. Tell them they'll be rich for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Interestingly, my understanding of the way in which flu vaccine was (in part) produced involved injecting blood infected with a the flu into developing chicken embryos (eggs), allowing them to develop the flu, and several probably very complicated steps later, you've got flu virus particles for a vaccine.

Any ways...

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've contracted covid twice. Both were when visiting the US. And that was before this numpty was in charge. This will not go well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any random person in the US has probably had COVID at least four times by now

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hahahahahaha jesus tapdancing christ this timeline is fucking wild. He is going to create the conditions for the next pandemic. It’s gonna start here. I’m calling it now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I baught a shit ton of N95's a month ago... I figured this was going to happen

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would totally bet on this prediction happening. Easy winnings.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

new pandemic is already started, look at current measles

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're going to have at least two pandemics at the same time, and the USA will have no government left to deal with it, just a few kooks and Nazis with their theories of eugenics, random vitamins, bleach, horse dewormers and survival of the most racially superior.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah, of we could just stop importing food from the USA, that would be greaaaaat

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, can we please close our airports for American flights?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Please do. All of a sudden the Republicans would care about the UN.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not paywalled for me: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/health/kennedy-bird-flu.html

preserve the birds, that are immune to it

I still don't like the everyone get measles version of this.

willing to really try this on a pilot as we build the safe perimeter around them to see if there is a way forward with immunity

"pilot with safe perimeter" seems reasonable, as long as safe perimeter works. Bird flu is endemic already, afaik. = "will remain a constant presence". It only makes sense for domestic chickens/fowls. It is not endemic yet in other animals/humans, and maximum quick containment seems like only approach to keep it that way.

Bird flu not being a problem in countries that have smaller flocks, seems a transformative solution.

I didn't like the rebuttals in my link above. One of them says that the best thing for you/chickens is "to have a central authority decide to cull you minimizing for a balance of cost and your pain, instead of giving you the chance/choice of either surviving, or far more likely, suffering before death." I would choose the 2nd option, but can only do so under central authority that has already decided what it prefers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't read this because fuck nyt, but wtf @

I didn't like the rebuttals in my link above. One of them says that the best thing for you/chickens is "to have a central authority decide to cull you minimizing for a balance of cost and your pain, instead of giving you the chance/choice of either surviving, or far more likely, suffering before death." I would choose the 2nd option, but can only do so under central authority that has already decided what it prefers.

Like what? Who is saying this to the person that is "you" in this scenario? Wtf? Absolute fucking non starter. I'm not choosing shit, fuck that we're not doing that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rebuttals for a pilot included that if you cull the whole flock, when signs of avian flu in part of the flock, then you are killing all of the chickens humanely instead of the large majority dying in pain from likely getting the flu. You are the chicken whose death is being decided from above.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy fuck that's grim. I didn't pick up what you meant at first my bad but I get it now. You're saying if this is their tactic for the birds, and "let 'er rip" is policy for covid for humans then it's going to be somewhere between "many if not most folks have multiple nontraumatic brain injuries now and autoimmune conditions that are [as I understand it] equivalent to developing AIDS in much shorter time and more" and "we will forcibly cull the herd to protect the future of the project".

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Genius.

That’s just about got the whole zeitgeist sewn up.

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