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A quick search suggests that the average American uses about 1.3 pounds of honey per year. If I'm 40 years old, and guess that I might live to be 80, that's only 52 pounds of honey, which I could easily buy in bulk. Honey doesn't expire, and even assuming the price doesn't skyrocket from bee die-offs, inflation alone will make the price go up over time.

Does it make sense to buy all the rest of the honey I'll ever need for the rest of my life, right now?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's probably better to buy it along the way.

Yes inflation will make honey more expensive over the coming 50 years or so. But it will make everything else more expensive too.

I'll keep my money on a savings account instead.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Having had a 50lb bucket of honey I can tell you that honey use goes up dramatically because you say to yourself "well I have so much I can just use it for this, and that, and a little more on my toast..." and then friends come around asking for a little here and a little there. Unless you can be super disciplined in a way that I cannot, 50 pounds will not last more that a couple years.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Once Honey 2.0 comes out in 20 years, your stock in Honey 1.0 will be worthless :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Just crush up Viagra in it and sell it as sex honey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I clearly use more than the average amount of honey then. Most of it to make mead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honey doesn't expire but it crystalises giving it a different texture. You'd also have to check in on what happens to decades old honey

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not a lot. there was some honey in the tomb of an Egyptian mummy and they are it when they excavated him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Lifetime supply of honey for me is one fairly small jar, except that one time I had a weird craving for honey in the comb, so I ordered a square of it and ate it like a sandwich. I guess I saw bears doing it and thought it looked tasty.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

If storage space were free and limitless, maybe. Honey keeps forever in principle but that doesn’t mean your barrel could never be contaminated, broken into by bugs or rodents, etc.

Personally, I enjoy buying different varieties of honey, especially as it’s a craft which has been getting more popular and really taking off in “local food” culture. I don’t want to commit to a barrel of any one thing, and I’m also fairly sure that the honey I could buy in a barrel is not going to be the one I’d most enjoy, but some over filtered, over processed stuff.

So I say nay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't eat like this because I'm not fat

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All the honey I’ve ever bought has crystallized before I could get through the small bottle. Yeah, you can heat it, it’s a pain to have to deal with when I just want to use it. I’d rather buy what I need fresh.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

One of our local honey dudes does 8 oz honey jars that are wider than they are tall. I like those.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The bee die-offs, that one typically hears about, has nothing to do with honey bees. Honey bees don't show any signs of going extinct. Its may of the other bee species, which are dying off. And that is bad because of the species liking different specific plants, which often rely on this bee species to be pollinated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of this is because domesticated bees are filling the roles wild bees take. Some is temperature based, like bees just die at something like 55 or 60 degrees C. Hooray climate collapse!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah - a lot of “save the bees” narratives omit the fact that honey bees are not indigenous to the US and displaced some species.

We should be just as concerned for wasps, who are essential to pollination.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i was with you until you got to the murder flies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Baeus are absolutely adorable though, how could anyone hate a chubby wingless wasp?

Cookoo wasps are gorgeous.

Many solitary wasp species incapacitate and lay eggs in spiders - the spider bodies make tasty snacks for the babies. If you don’t like spiders - the enemy of your enemy?

It’s really only the social wasps that are aggressive though - which makes sense. They will sting and defend their hive with their lives, because that’s where their sisters and nieces live! But all wasp species are essential. We need paper wasps for pollination - even if a Polistes sting will ruin your day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The latter wasp reminds me of what I was told is the "Jade beetle," but which is apparently a "figeater beetle."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

If you like the green/iridescent, sweat bees are beautiful.

Common names for insects are very regional honestly. Ie, in my locale, we call “crane flies” “skeeter eaters.”

Or how “June bug”/“June beetle” covers hundreds of species.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

"I bought a lot of pudding"
I tried to get a gif of Adam Sandler saying that in Punch Drunk Love but I couldn't find the exact scene I wanted so you get this explanation instead

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Haven't seen this mentioned yet so:

The honey may not expire, but the container you store it in could. I'd be very concerned about plastic disintegrating and/or leeching into the honey. Glass would be better for that, but it's also really heavy compared to plastic, so you'd need more, smaller containers instead of one giant tub.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Glass would also be better for heating it to melt crystals.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would agree with you but I'm like 25% microplastic (and 8% regular plastic) so I figure what harm will be done has already been done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's surprising that Bender has yet to say "I'm 40% plastic!"

I'm forty percent whatever it is you needed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sure you could. But I'll offer a different perspective

All honey tastes different from different producers and areas, you'll be missing out on some wonderful honey flavors if you buy that much in bulk. If it's purely for sweetening, sure fine, do it. But if you want the flavor of honey, check out a farmers market and see what you'd be missing out on with bulk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I've also heard that honey helps to confer resistance to allergies to things that were in the area where the honey was made. As such, OP might be missing out on environmental defense by not diversifying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The idea did occur that I'd better be damn sure that I like whatever honey I'll be eating for the rest of my life.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A quick search suggests that the average American uses about 1.3 pounds of honey per year.

I think this is a case of people not eating honey and bringing the average way down.
My current SO puts honey in her tea and goes though about a pound and a half per month or about 18lbs per year.
It might sound like a lot but 24oz over an average of 30 days is less than an Oz of honey per day or 2 tablespoons across 4 cups of tea every day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you, I'm one of these people, as are most of the folks I know. I'll eat maybe a couple of teaspoons of honey per year, tops. And I cook 3 meals a day at home, from scratch, every day.

Honey is great, I love bees, but I don't actually eat much honey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I’ll balance her out - zero most years. It doesn’t taste good enough to start adding sweetener to things

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The average added sugar consumption for American adults is about 70g per day, which works out to be 25.6 kg (56.2 lbs) per year. People can shift their source of sweetener and consume a dramatically higher amount of honey without necessarily having a diet that is all that different from the national average.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

As a kid we had a neighbor that ran a bee-brothel and had hives all over the region. Since his hives would just sit on un-used corners of farmland, he would offer some honey annually as ‘rent’. (He was also generous with his boat so a couple waterskiing trips were also on the table).

We (2 parents, 4 kids) would get a 5 gallon can of honey every other year or so.

That has been over 45 years now and my father is still working through that supply. We put it in sealed mason jars and it has remained good all this time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, then turn it into mead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Then you'd be a lot warmer and a lot happier!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Do you actually eat 1.3 pounds a year tho? If so, then it does.

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