The left let's throw more money at the problem.
The right let's take money away from people and then try and bully people out of being the problem.
this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2024
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The leftist position looks more like the centrist pov to me.
Is: The rich should be lined up, stripped naked, and guillotined. Closer?
Most of us don't feel that way and would be happy with just reasonable market and industry regulation.
Me personally? Yeah eat the rich.
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Only because our nation's Overton window is skewed so hard right that the general populace thinks common centrist concepts from other countries are radical left.
I mean just look at how most of the country thinks of Universal Healthcare which is the default in most developed countries and not even considered that particularly progressive.
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What's funny is that not adhering to leftist dogma is considered "enlightened centrist" now. So much that being a liberal is viewed negatively on a lot of places here on Lemmy.
What leftist dogma do liberals reject?
Are we talking classical liberal or magahat speech liberal?
I eye roll when I see the undecided voters for this election. If you're saying you're still undecided on Trump, you're full of shit
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I just want to say that I watched John Oliver today talk about those messaging scams that start with, "Hey Elaine, it's Mary. Are we still on for golf?"
And I then found out that Americans have lost around 3 billion dollars to that scam.
My first thought was, "those people shouldn't be allowed to vote."
I have something to tell you. Everyone is susceptible to scams. We're social creatures, my dude. It's part of the arrangement. Trust, the ability to trust, that's the built-in weakness to that.
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And he said "that's just in the US" because it does happen everywhere. You know? Western Europe where half the population votes for autocrats too?
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The only time I think I ever equate the left and the right is that both sides have gotten increasingly tribalist, which this meme ironically proves.
I guess the other time I equate the left and right is in that both sides are very reluctant to hold their politicians accountable for fear of losing to the other side (which is also a result of that tribalism) - even though the left is more willing to say Biden isn't great, they're still giving the DNC a free pass because Trump is worse, and rather than recognising that this election is really Biden's to lose (he just needs to actually tone down on the things that his voter base doesn't like), they're blaming the conscientious objectors who choose to vote their conscience for not being a part of their tribe.
The enlightened centrist meme is a similar issue, where acknowledging any of this qualifies you as being outside of either tribe and therefore also a liability in this game. If it helps, I'm not American and can't vote in your election anyway, so chill out a bit - I'm not losing your election for you (whichever side you're on).
I just need a place to rant...
I hold a few "enlightened centrist" types in high regard, and the opinions I always hear from them are "Yeah, Trump is a lunatic (butsoisbiden™), but the rest of the Republican party is fine." While Trump is openly planning to replace the entire RNC chair with virtually zero pushback.
What the fuck am I missing here?
The example in the meme is rage-baity, but it's not wrong when these people are being willingly ignorant at best.
If anyone thinks Trump doesn't pull some shit in office, and either him or his replacement (due to age/health, not conspiracy) don't try to hold on to power by even less democratic means than we already have... You're not paying attention. The dude has told us this is what he's going to do.
Yeah, the governments got problems... But handing the keys to a man that has proven time and time again that he has no regard for the will of the people... Shit's bad, but I -promise you- it isn't that bad.
As far as the trials being political... Yeah, they are. But the crimes were real. And how can we demand our politicians be bound by the law, but protest the first time one actually gets prosecuted?
This is high profile, and millions are watching. Set the precedent. And -we- have to create a culture of holding them accountable after this.
Genuinely asking though... What am I missing?
What the fuck am I missing here?
I keep coming back to 'inability to entertain the hypothetical'.
It seems that many people can not conceive of something that they have not personally experienced. They can not entertain the hypothetical situation of Trump taking over the party simply because it has not happened yet. They can not conceive of a dictatorship simply because it has not happened yet. It's mind boggling to me that people can't entertain the hypothetical, but it's what I keep coming back to.
Just more evidence that a good chunk of humanity is neither rational nor observant.
Natural selection has been put on hold by how completely we have dominated our environment and the foolish and ignorant aren't being weeded out any more.
I think to be conservative a person can't have sympathy or empathy. Can't picture themselves in the situations of others. They are the center of the universe. Everyone else is just not as good or as smart as they are because they think different thoughts
God rewards his followers ie if you're poor you are not godly. Nevermind the riches are in heaven and that being rewarded on earth is Not The Point, or that Jesus preached compassion. That's their belief system so yeah, a lot of the religious right apply that to helping the people in our community who need help the most- must have done something to deserve it. "I don't have to bother having sympathy because I am a smart good Christian so this would never be something to happen to me"
A lot of the lowest-rung, easiest targets for ridicule are those who are very loudly, uncritically on one side of an argument or another. People who are of middling intelligence correctly identify this as an opportunity for themselves to demonstrate that they are very clever and superior by taking the piss out of the silliest of the left and the right. This leads to Enlightened Centrism™.
This works phenomenally well until they meet someone who has genuine convictions based on their own individual morals and rationale and not how they can differentiate themselves from others.
This is my own slightly bitter, slightly drunken, leftist rant. My own bitter POV is that Enlightened Centrism is a shortcut to smug emotional and intellectual superiority for those who can't come up with their own convictions.
It also reinforces privilege, so it's a double feedback loop
People who say the rest of the Republicans are fine are also just wilfully ignorant or intentionally misleading. They're the ones who voted Trump in to begin with and he wasn't ever hiding who he truly was so they don't have the excuse that they didn't see this coming.
It's almost like they're looking in the mirror saying "I, the rest of Republicans, am fine" like they want to sleep at night after sentencing people unlike them to death
I agree. I watched a Hillary debate for the first time the other night... The signs were there, ffs.
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