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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was going to make a snarky quip like "guess he's never actually used oracle", but then realized he IS oracle.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oracle is that way because he wants it that way

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Shit like this is why I'll never take one of those 23&me tests. I'd love to know all that stuff. But I don't want that data sold to assholes like this.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A post from the reddit thread on this that led me down a "dark" (double pun in this case) rabbit hole:

Larry Ellison is either independently coming up with, or stealing, an idea from an authoritarian freak named Curtis Yarvin. From an article about his ideology:

Each patchwork would be ruled by a “realm”: a corporation with absolute power. Citizens would be free to move, but every other realm would also be ruled by corporate governments with chilling impunity. For example, Yarvin says the tech overlords of the San Francisco realm could arbitrarily decide to cut off its citizens’ hands with no fear of legal consequences—because they’re a sovereign power, beholden to no federal government or laws.

In “Friscorp,” as Yarvin calls the San Francisco realm, an all-seeing Orwellian surveillance system would enforce public safety: “All residents, even temporary visitors, carry an ID card with RFID response. All are genotyped and iris-scanned. Public places and transportation systems track everyone. Security cameras are ubiquitous. Every car knows where it is, and who is sitting in it, and tells the authorities both.”

Yarvin is a thought leader who influences many of the most powerful people in the world (and also a couple elected politicians).

Larry Ellison basically floated the idea of an AI surveillance panopticon several months ago.

Ars Technica: Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago

Why is it always people who look like they're midway through a heart attack that want to do horrible things like this?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

This is not for AI to study. Ellison has been very clear on wanting to create a surveillance state. This is to oppress Americans

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Eugenicist wants a big eugenics database, got it.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing short of comical horseshit in the name of "line go up", to justify IP theft.

For ai to study ai to study

Cringe.

Bizarre how inept of CEO these few are when the only strategy they can come up with is throwing more money at the same models expecting different results.

mus have bin nut enuff datas betta frow more datas at it. Dat make it AGI

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Consider that Ellison has made comments in the past about how all of these camera will force people to behave. I believe he wants to create the surveillance mechanisms for the police state.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's been done and as expected has very little return on utterly massive amounts of wasted money better spent on tangible valued outcomes

[–] amon@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don’t anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn - you stick your hand in there and it’ll chop it off, the end. You don’t think "oh, the lawnmower hates me" – lawnmower doesn’t give a shit about you, lawnmower can’t hate you. Don’t anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don’t fall into that trap about Oracle.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Iteration X is a pipe-dream.

[–] halcyonloon@midwest.social 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ellison is a piece of shit. This is the same creep who said that putting AI surveillance everywhere will ensure that everyone will "behave." That probably doesn't apply to him on his private Hawaiian island, huh? He will not be missed, none of these soulless monsters will be.

Hell, even the police state won't want to use Oracle.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I have a similar saying for Elon…

Fuck off Larry

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

How about you go fuck a frozen steel plate.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Go back to your island layer and fuck off.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 3 months ago

layer

Lair: as in secret base or den
Really old English word that follows no conventions

[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

What could go wrong

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And I would like to put Larry Ellison in a giant Vitamix blender and jam the frappe button in the ON position.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

"Ooh, Ellison smoke. Don't breathe this!"

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lab coat dude over a smoking bowl of well-stirred billionaire: "Don't become this."

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

insisted artificial intelligence is soon going to change everyone's lives "across the board."

Like in Minority Report, huh?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like these technofascists read all the dystopian sci-fi books when they were younger and identified with the villains

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus.

[–] 108@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I wonder why a nazi would want to do that?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Well. Since Elon's already got free reign over all our federal data...

Seriously, how are the legislators so blind to what is going on?

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

I mean, the most offensive part of this is that he wants to use an Oracle system. Hey, jokes make the dystopia a little less boring right?🤣😂😢😭

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

These are the types of people that James Bond used to hunt down.

How the fuck is this real life?

[–] nick@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

Larry Ellison should fuck his own plastic face.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I'd like all of him to be put into a tar pit for future paleontologists to study.

[–] makuus@pawb.social 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He believes the payoff will include better healthcare, thanks to treatments tailored to individuals…

Hey, that’s great and all… So, who’s going to pay for those treatments? Universal healthcare when?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yes let's call it Yougenics Healthcare by United

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

silly rabbit, healthcare is for wealthies! your DNA and medical history is farmed to cure your betters.

now sit down.

[–] makuus@pawb.social 1 points 3 months ago

I’ll consider them my “betters” when they can prove to me that their money and power is good for something other than the kind of villainy reserved for children’s cartoons.

now sit down.

Now, this is an interesting statement. The first part could well be taken as satire. But, this… this stands apart, a command that pings my Poe’s Law detector. Is this more villain-coded roleplay? Or, is perhaps a prophylactic ESAD called for here, in the event that you truly believe what you’re saying?

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Guess all the oligarchs are getting envious of ol' FelonMusk and want to get in on the action...

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anonymous data right?

Right?

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 months ago

Too late, Elon is already sucking up our data.

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