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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Capitalism doesn't "fail" per se. Capitalism is actually the default. All other systems require some kind of active intervention and oversight.

Capitalism simply "wins" due to being the best at making the most money. Whether that actually benefits humanity is a crapshoot.

Countries can set up some kind of socialist system, but things will "default" back to capitalism when corruption and/or stupidity inevitably happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

On masse or totally?

I think the primary cases in which capitalism will fall out of dominance, will be when it empowers workers too much that they gain the ability too sieze and distribute the means of production. When the state is empowered too much and control of capital is siezed. When communities have too much self relience or capacity to accept hardships. When automation makes manual intervention by capitalist too costly to compete with.

Or we get corporations so large they become defacto states, and whether they are truely capitalist will be depend on what shapes those structures take.

Not sure which one will dominate though. Socialism, authoritarinsm, distrubtionism, singularity, or some other one that I'm just not aware of yet. It maybe some hybrid, dual or tri power structure too, undoubtedly there will be pockets of all of them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Anarchy, of the Mad Max variety because when capitalism finally fails, it's gonna be because they completely destroyed the fucking world.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Reading the comments here reminds me of that Slavoj Žižek/ Fredric Jameson quote:

It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The Soviet Union had race tracks and casinos.

People are always going to want something for nothing.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Why it's so hard to imagine life after capitalism...

https://youtu.be/PaASqPnpq5Y

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If pop culture is to be believed, the country boys will go back to hunting and farming. At least until the diesel runs out. They'll fight off the free loading hoards from the city looking for food until the ammunition runs out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love the dichotomy of hope and despair in this comment due to the false implication that they believe themselves to be bulletproof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's the premise of modern country music.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Fail" or "Succeed" is based on your perspective.

Capitalism won't fail. It's a great success to the rich who get richer by manipulating it.

Capitalism is a success, just not for us or anyone we know.

The 1% don't give a shit about that. If they did it wouldn't be an issue in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Society fragments into a bunch of smaller communities. Some will be relatively nice, some very much will not

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Sadly , the country supports gun ownership strongly. It is probably going to be a black summer deal.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Corporate feudalism was a fun concept I played with in high school, but now that I'm older, I think I was just approaching the concepts of a lot of modern cyberpunk settings portrayed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

With the way things are going, a return to out and out fascism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, accompanied by an economic structure far worse than capitalism, and a government style far worse than liberal democracy.

We got it good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Depends on the place. A cycle of failures is a feature of capitalism, it's the opportunity for the next future failure to rise up and take charge. For great profit.

Lots of power struggles until one faction comes out on top (this includes subjugation and the equivalent of puppet states) or, less likely, those involved reach an agreement of coexistence.

Sometimes I think that humanity not breaking up into smaller groups after they passed a size of ~200 was a serious mistake.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm leaning into the right of this meme more and more with every passing day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm in this image and I dont like it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

If there isn't a large Socialist coalition to combat fascism, then fascism will rise before collapsing even harder. If there is a large Socialist coalition, and that coalition successfully combats the fascist powers, then some form of Socialism will likely replace it, and humanity can continue progressing instead of regressing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Chaos and war, probably.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Lemmyreddit finds a new political/economic system to constantly be bitter at.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It will fail, inevitably. It's unsustainable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah yeah yeah... Capitalism bad, m'kay ? I only see it becoming stronger and stronger with the growth of huge companies like Google Amazon, apple, etc. That are already beyond national level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

As megacorporations swell, and disparity rises, so too does exploitation. Disparity rising is not a good thing. This leads to instability and collapse.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It'd been unsustainable for thousands of years, and yet here we are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Commerce isn’t capitalism. Capitalism began with the Dutch East India Company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Capitalism is only a few hundred years old, what do you think we are talking about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

@return2ozma

@hosford42
The ascendancy of bowling 🎳

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

We return to bigger army diplomacy.

Jk, we never left that system.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

A mass die off

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