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The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's long-standing pledge.

However, Congress must approve the agency's abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.

GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.

Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Good luck to your kids and grandkids, education is fucked. Back to the feudal times where only royalty and the rich were educated. If this passes I am not paying student loans anymore. The department that issued them will be gone so why pay.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That loan will just get transferred to DOGE dont worry.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

US Healthcare system is the worst in the world by any measure from cost to outcomes

Republicans: lets do the same to the education system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I had no idea the ~~DOE~~ federal Education Department was that recently created. Having grown up in a deep red state I feel like a veil was suddenly lifted from me, and now I can see how even more fucked up my older relatives’ education must have been compared to mine (already pretty fucked up!).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The planned order follows years of campaign promises from Trump to abolish the federal Education Department, which was established in 1979, during President Jimmy Carter's administration.

Oops, mixed that up with the federal Education Department. Thanks for the correction!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

So, the DOE handles student loans. No DOE, what happens to the loans?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, you would think that would get rid of the loans, but realistically they'll just sell the loans to some bank, and then a political solution to debt forgiveness becomes completely impossible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They also manage the school vouchers. It's literally getting in the way of their own goals. Something I mentioned months ago.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm sure the "servicers" will continue to collect. Republicans went out of their way to file a suit on behalf of one of them that triggered relief getting blocked.

Don't worry, they will make sure to close all of the loopholes that might actually benefit the working class.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Yep, student loan repayment is the one point on which politicians will grow a spine and object. God forbid they unite on anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

How you all haven't had a revolution I'll never understand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I'd love to be at the protests tomorrow. Why it's on a weekday I'm not sure, but my capitol is hours away, and I work. I just started a new job and barely make enough to make ends meet until I get my first commission checks. I wasn't working for months prior.

I literally can't afford to go protest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We aren't starving enough. That's why. I give is 18 months or so.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bread and circuses. No one wants to revolt.

"The super bowl is on and I just heated up some nacho cheese dip."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

When the capitol of the country is possibly thousands of miles away, and missing work means losing health insurance and becoming homeless, it terrifies a lot of people that can't even miss one day of work for being sick, let alone the days' journey and expense it would take. Much longer than the maximum 8 hour drive it would take to get from anywhere in Germany to Berlin, by comparison.

Not an excuse either, the US is just huge, and set up for citizens to fail if they actually stand up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jan 6th 2021

Those morons didn't come from DC, distance didn't keep them from acting!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Oddly if you look into a lot of them, there were a lot of "small business owners" that aren't beholden to a company or people connected to someone else's wealth, or illegal under the table wealth, or other shady things. It has been a while since I looked into it, but it was a combination of personal fiscal stupid decisions, access to rich with money to burn. The tl;dr was basically: they didn't care what they did to themselves because they thought The Orange Oompa McBurger Loompa was going to anoint them all soldiers of his magic rich person court.

When you have a fatalist/selfish/sure-thing psychology working "outside" the system, you really don't care if your kids have medication, and you don't lose your health insurance because you're taking Ivermectin from the neighborhood vet that sells it under the table.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Have to continue to create more stupid people to follow him.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm so sorry, Americans. I'm not sure who is even able to liberate your country. You and the Russians liberated the camps in Europe at the end of WW2, but who's there for you? I think you might need to liberate yourself. Again. I'm sorry. Good luck

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I couldn’t even imagine what even dumber Americans would look like.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I refer you to the documentary films "Idiocracy" and "Don't Look Up"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Idiocracy have aged like fine wine, it's like someone made it in the future and send it back in the time masheen at costco

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, reality has surpassed the referenced films.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It might be worth mentioning that Andrew Johnson signed the Department of Education into law in 1867. It was elevated to a cabinet position in 1979 by Carter from it's previous position within the Department of Health, Education, And Welfare.

The idea that the government has a constitutional interest in fostering the education of the public is NOT a new thing contrary to what conservatives would have you believe. An educated populace is an essential function of a representative democracy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But an educated populace is anathema to the ruling class.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

In a democracy the people are the ruling class.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (6 children)

But I can’t figure out why. A society with severe brain drain would lead to reduced quality of life for them as well. Are they just banking on AI to do everything while everyone dies in rebellions and counter-rebellions? Shit, that’s probably it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

They measure their quality of life by their ability to dominate others. On top of the desire for feudalism for many of them is a desire for theocracy. For them politics peaked at the divine right of kings.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I also don't understand why they're aiming for this kind of society. Eventually they'll cut so much that the actual pie will shrink, so they'll end up getting less while being surrounded by slums.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago

Fascists aren’t particularly smart. They tend to lose in the long run because they just cannot comprehend anything complex. All their philosophy is wishful thinking and simple heuristics that follow their preconceived notions about the superiority of their in group.

They want feudalism because they can’t stand anyone having power other than the people who deserve to rule. They can’t stand that non elites can vote, demand decent wages, etc. so they want feudalism without understanding the downstream effects of that.

They are just fucking dumb. And that is why, if we get enough time, we will win against them. Climate change might get us. But we will fucking destroy these no knowing fuck wits.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Let em keep chopping off the federal government ..... at one point, individual states will start wondering why they are all interconnected in a union that doesn't do anything or provide any benefits any more and start acting like independent nations.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Exactly like every foreign adversary wants

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Wait until the working class in those foreign adversary nations start noticing the same thing...

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie

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[–] [email protected] 297 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Congress is required for all sorts of shit that Elon is doing but that isn’t stopping Elon.

Laws are not some sort of natural force. They are implemented by people and all of those people are either fascists or cowards.

Trumps immunity plus his pardon power make him king. All of his minions can do all the illegal things they want. Trump can then pardon them and he isn’t liable for their crimes if he is doing something roughly in line with his duties are President. John Roberts fucked us all.

The only way this is going to be solved is by people power. Organize. Fight these fascists.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (13 children)

They already blocked organization by controlling the mass media and major social platforms are in cahoots.

Facebook, Twitter/X and tiktok all pushed trump and hid Kamala during the campaign. Not to mention the influencers that got paid to push Trump.

Any type of hashtag or trend that tries to fight back is just going to get pushed down in "the algorithm" or straight up blocked (search kamala on twitter)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Excuse my ignorance but organize to do what specific actions?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly why musk is not appointed, he can't be impeached and as you said DOJ and pardons will protect him.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

You forgot money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Knowledge is power, and the GOP can't have educated people around...gotta keep that shit in check and keep our kids stupid so they can't ask questions, you know?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the churches.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the ~~churches~~ corporations.

Let's not kid ourselves, the churches will get some money for taking the poor kids, but the goal is to privatize education so that corporations can profit from schooling even more than they already have.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I’m just warning you that education is seen as an “investment”, they are already on the capitalist pigs pathway and well with so many fat pigs I think dirty pork would be best to feed the population.

[–] [email protected] 203 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Education is Fascisms biggest enemy. That's why.

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