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In the end of this shit show, Canada and Europe are closer than ever.
That's what happened last time. Global trade realigned and the US was left out. Just ask soy bean farmers.
Just ask soy bean farmers.
Soy bean farmers got direct subsidies to offset the damage that Trump did last time. They didn't learn shit, they voted for him again, and would again given a choice.
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First hockey video I’ll purposefully click on in many years. Cool.
We didn’t even really like Americans BEFORE the tariffs. I wonder, do Americans realize how every other country sees them? Not just the government, but how we see the citizens?
No. Americans primarily consume American media. Foreign media and news is socialist commie propaganda, or something.
Americans primarily consume McDonald’s from what I’ve seen.
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Thank you Canada. We deserve it.
We deserve it.
Ignorance is no longer a valid excuse. We all have access to all of human knowledge. “Not knowing how tariffs work” is no longer a valid excuse.
What if all that human knowledge was controlled by an elite few who control the narrative and also infect that information with lies?
Looking up what a tarrif is is hardly secret knowledge
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Looking up how to spell it isn't rocket science either, but apparently you didn't care enough to do that. So maybe back off a bit.
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I tend to see most of Trumps fans as victims more then perpetrators. Nonetheless, its still hard to forgive even if it's mostly an elite few creating the behavior through manipulation.
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the ignorance is by design. our entire society has been programmed for consumption not critical thought - and this has been done from all sides at the behest of the corporate oligarchy.
as angry and disappointed and depressed as I am with the outcome, its a deep structural failure and I have a hard time placing the blame on those that simply decided to check out and not participate in their own civic education. every pressure on the american plebian has been to keep your head down, ignore the growing deficiencies and consume.
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That 49.8% is misleading - it implies that 49.8% of the country support him, but it counts only the votes that were actually cast. He only got votes from about 30% of eligible voters.
Of course we can't know who all those non-voters wanted to win, but I'd rather not imply that nearly half of all americans voted for him.
Regardless, the words "only 49.8%" in this context, is so beyond absurd, that it must be comedy.
Of course we can't know who all those non-voters wanted to win, but I'd rather not imply that nearly half of all americans voted for him.
Who gives a shit? Those non-voters made an active choice to not matter. Makes sense to respect that choice and ignore their existence.
People always bring this up as if it's some indication that things arent quite as bad as they seem. Why? Americans chose this in every way that matters.
They're just trying to cope with the situation by playing games with statistics. You're absolutely right though, non-voters don't matter and there's no point in talking about them as much as we do.
I agree that talking about non-voters in that context isn't useful but we definitely should talk about non-voters more in regards to why they didn't vote. Is it cause in a number of states voting access is really hard? Is it due to not liking either party and not feeling like there are good candidates? I think understanding that more could really give a better understanding of this block of people, is it really just people who don't care about politics and would never care enough to vote or is it people who just don't have the time to deal with navigating the system to be able to vote.
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People that didn't vote also supported him
Life's more complicated then that, try not to alienate the people that need convincing.
Life's more complicated ~~then~~ than that ; try not to alienate the people that need convincing.
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Life’s more complicated then that, try not to alienate the people that need convincing.
How about a modification to the statement like this: People that didn't vote for him let those that did decide to vote for them.
Also, in many states, the Republicans insist on making voting more difficult, especially for certain people.
We should have vote by mail, everywhere, with ballots sent out well in advance. And people should be automatically registered to vote when they get something like a driver's license.
Nah, that's a shit take. If you didn't vote, you're at least okay with the prospect of another Trump presidency, or you didn't care enough to vote against him. You're complicit either way.
I don't know - in some parts of America, getting out and voting is made more difficult. On purpose.
We all saw that voting by mail can work during Covid. The qons want to claw that back.
Some things that are necessary are also hard. If you don't do something necessary because it wasn't as easy as you thought it should be then you're a piece of shit. Nothing will change until Americans collectively decide to make good choices in spite of the difficulty and you're making that take longer by helping people feel justified in taking the lazy way out.
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No, they have blood on their hands too. Sure they aren't covered in it like MAGA Carrie, but they didn't take 30 minutes out of their day to vote to stop this.
I would add one big caveat to that: voter suppression. Voting day isn't a holiday, many MANY people have to work, and between Republicans doing all they can to make mail-in ballots inaccessible and closing polling stations to the point where people are standing out in the heat for upwards of 4 hours to get into a place to vote, let alone purging voting rolls so close to the election that there wasn't enough time for people to register again (and nonsense voter ID requirements), I can't blame some people for outright not having the ability to vote.
Anybody who had the ability to and chose not to? Yeah, blood is on their hands. The time to push for the changes that everybody wants is not 3 months once every 4 years, but the time leading up to those 3 months.
They also threw out over 2 million mail in ballots this year and black voters were nine times more likely than white voters to have their mail in ballots rejected.
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How is that alienating anyone?
Also I don't think most of them can be convinced of anything that will improve tomorrow.
Fair point.
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Good.