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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Thinking of starting media creation, want to have an email address dedicated to that purpose. Don't want to go with Gmail as I'd like to phase Google out of my life, amd Protonmail seems incorrect for this because it largely wouldn't be encrypted mail.

Recommendations?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So when it comes to encryption for digital data there are really two concerns:

  1. encrypted at rest
  2. encrypted in transit

Your options for encrypted email providers are limited:

and Protonmail seems incorrect for this because it largely wouldn't be encrypted mail.

I'm curious why you think so?

Proton's inboxes are encrypted, so that's (1) handled.

For (2), Proton-to-Proton emails are automatically encrypted. Proton-to-WKD-enabled-services are also automatically encrypted:

Proton also supports automatic external key discovery with Web Key Directory (WKD). This means that emails sent to other providers which use WKD will be automatically encrypted with OpenPGP as well, without the need to manually exchange public PGP keys with your contacts.

And finally, emails to non-secure services can be encrypted, but you must provide the decryption password to the receiver through some other method. These emails can also be configured to automatically delete after a set expiration time.

This is the most feature-complete encrypted email service that I'm aware of, it basically covers all cases that it is possible for Proton to cover on their own service, anything more would require cooperation from the other service(s). No email service could possibly force an inbound email to be encrypted in transit, the sending service has to do that, and that's really the only part that Proton doesn't have a feature for (because it's impossible). If encryption is your concern, I don't think there are any better options right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No email service could possibly force an inbound email to be encrypted in transit, the sending service has to do that, and that’s really the only part that Proton doesn’t have a feature for (because it’s impossible).

This is what I meant by "it largely wouldn't be encrypted mail." I'm looking for an email address to open a Pixelfed, Peertube and probably Mastodon and Loops account, among others. Trying to separate "content creation" from my personal accounts and email address. This account will likely be public-facing and will receive normal everyday email, from the various instances I sign up with plus maybe a viewer if anyone ever watches anything I make. The automatic encryption features of Protonmail don't seem that useful for this use case. Just need an email address that my bank hasn't heard of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Hmm, I'm not sure what you expect... if an email service sends in the clear, the only place that can be fixed is at the service itself.

Having the inbox for these accounts encrypted would seem to be important though, so that you can maintain control of them.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

The CEO of Proton recently came out as a right wing partisan who supports American neofascism. I would look elsewhere for email providers, Proton is not as trustworthy as they purport to be.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 weeks ago

Proton is not the sum total of one of its board members.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you have any sources for that?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

One of the posts discussing it https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It was discussed in real time across Lemmy with links to Mastodon and Reddit where the CEO and the official Proton account made various partisan statements that have destroyed Protons reputation. I didn't save links but I'm sure you can dig them up easily enough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

https://archive.ph/quYyb Guess you‘re right, fuck me man.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, gotta find a new VPN also. What an asshole (the CEO).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It was completely shocking, I would expect him to be smart enough not to make statements like that but I guess it's masks off now that their guy is in power.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

We're probably on a list now, for besmirching him.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Buy a domain name and put that on the service provider of your choice.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I have no basis by which to choose a service provider.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

The advantage of this approach is that you are not tied to a service provider indefinitely. You can keep the same email address when you change providers.

The stakes of selecting a "wrong" service provider aren't as high. If you find you chose the "wrong" one, you can change it in the future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

I use Proton, but I also use their VPN and password manager. Aliases are also nice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Your domain provider might have a basic service for low cost.

You can get a low tier google workspace.

Zoho exists.

You can get an exchange p1 license.

You can buy your own Synology and run an email server off it if your ISP allows.

I use google workspace but it’s from when they had a free service. If I needed to switch today I’d go with Exchange online, or I’d find a cheap Colo near me and put a Synology pair in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How much does this cost you, and are there any drawbacks?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe $20/year for the domain and some addl services.

Exchange online for a single user is $48/year according to their website.

Knowing I can move my domain whenever I want is worth something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Fastmail has been great for me for years now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I personally use Migadu for email + Porkbun for the domain, prices and service are great imo

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

This. Always use your own domain.

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