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And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If Lower Decks added multiverses then anything can be canon or not canon according to the viewer's preference! Want a multiverse that's the same but Discovery doesn't exist? Okay, that's the multiverse whatever show is set in until such time as they explicitly bring it up.

That's how infinite realities work!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lol did you forget that you already posted this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, yes. I have so much stuff that I post that sometimes I don't update the tags properly and forget that I have already posted it. My mistake. That being said, was a while ago so meh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

And it seems to have generated quite a bit of discussion already anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously didn't get the reaction they were looking for.

OR.

Got exactly the reaction they were looking for and wanted more of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alternatively, and accurately, I post constantly and have thousands of things to sort through and occasionally a double post happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Sure, that's what you WANT us to believe. I'm not falling for the narrative given by BIG-Stamets. This was an inside job. Rocket votes don't melt steel posts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't care. Still ignoring it exists.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can keep the shrooms as long as I get to keep the Catians.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I haven't yet seen the last season of Lower Decks, but apparently they make the claim that Discovery was set in an alternate universe.

https://cosmicbook.news/star-trek-discovery-erased-canon
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-erased.html

Again, I can't validate that, but have read those articles

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who's to say that episode wasn't from a multi verse branch and isn't canon itself? (It's a stretch, and I haven't seen the episode yet)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That just seems like an intentional misinterpretation from someone who wants Discovery to be as non-canon as possible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That's very possible

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I watched the episode. They didn't erase it. They clearly weren't paying attention.

The Klingons in our world evolved and look different from DSC onwards. The ones in the timeline they shifted to, do not. Simple as that. Made fairly clear with the other stuff about a Klingon sailing barge and what have you.

More whiny people just whining.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People do love to wine about Discovery, so that's not surprising. Thanks for the clarification. I do need to get onto watching the last LD season.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (5 children)

People who whine about the silliness of some of the concepts in Discovery (spore drive, space-tardigrades) have never seen TOS.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

While I do generally enjoy discovery, I do think It's still pretty flawed. Not because of the spore stuff, but because of the way that they have to deal with so many "danger to the entire galaxy/universe/multiverse" type events back to back. Like, doing a few is fine, I generally enjoyed the xindi arc in Enterprise for example, but having so many starts to feel very forced after awhile.

I especially find that bit with the spore energy extractor in the mirror universe that could kill all life in the multiverse if not stopped jarring, because, if you have a potentially limitlessness number of alternative timelines, and the massive expanse of space, to develop that tech in, the odds that nobody else ever built one of these drops to essentially zero, except that the existence of the plot at all implies nobody else ever has.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Not because of the spore stuff, but because of the way that they have to deal with so many “danger to the entire galaxy/universe/multiverse” type events back to back

I find this complaint to be fairly flawed. It's like saying that it's exhausting to have to deal with a space station on DS9 all the time. That's just... the show. Discovery, the ship, was built to be a fast reaction vessel to respond to immediate and imminent threats. Why is it such a surprise that they do exactly that? It's like complaining that a special forces team is constantly dealing with dangerous missions. It's their job.

Every show has their own tone and flavor. Discovery's is the major threats. That's really all there is to it on that front. It's not wishwashy or bad writing. It's just the literal gimmick of the show.

Not liking it is fine but that specific complaint never really struck true for me.

odds that nobody else ever built one of these drops to essentially zero, except that the existence of the plot at all implies nobody else ever has.

It doesn't drop to essentially zero. Not all timelines are identical. Each has their own differences. Just because a Charon-type mycelial core was made elsewhere doesn't mean that those people didn't notice that issue or curtail it in their own universe. Question, do you have the same complaint about the finale of Lower Decks then? That's not dissimilar.

Edit: Downvote an opinion you disagree with while refusing to engage. Go replicate a spine, would you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I've not seen much of lower decks tbh. I've tried watching it a couple times, trying different episodes in case its just a case of it taking a few to get in stride, but I've just not liked it the same as other trek shows, the characters just seem annoying and everything happens too fast.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I thought we all agreed that canon doesn’t start until the Wrath of Khan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

They berate an exam table ffs

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO they did a fantastic job reconciling why there's no mention of Discovery and it's fancy spore drive in the canon timeline. Launching them to the far future was probably the best decision

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why do people care about canon?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Headcannon all that matters

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