And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more
hissss it burns ussss
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First couple of seasons were “ok”. But after the jump to the future the show became almost unwatchable.
Bad Trek is better than no Trek and the fact that this show spawned SNW gives it a pass in my book.
Just like Matrix 2 and 3 didn't exist, Discovery does not exist either.
Just watched Section 31.
Guess AI crap gets to be canon now. Mercurial Scottish crazy Vulcan bots, too.
I don't care about Canon. Every Trek has done silly things that are then included, or ignored, based on the next writers whims.
What did annoy me was that it became less and less fun to watch. Neither the scripts nor the sets and backgrounds felt like they where done by people who liked the general ideas and vibes of star trek. Or maybe they just didn't share my idea for star trek.
Pretty much only sticked around because I liked Stamments, Culber, and Adira. For all it's failings, I did feel they nailed representation.
Isn't tos technically the only one not a spin off and therefore the only canon?
If I've never seen them, they don't exist. Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks.. none of it. I'm safe and pure.
At least give lower decks a try if you’ve seen the rest of trek, the references alone make it fun to watch. It’s AU it doesn’t taint the cannon but it’s still trek and a good time
From the clips I've seen, I can already tell you I don't like the character designs or the humor.
My wife and I are watching Star Trek for the first time ever. We're on the 4th season of The Next Generation. So I'm not "in the know". Should we not watch discovery when we get to that point? What's wrong with it?
I personally liked it a lot. I liked the fact that it broke from the style of the 90's Trek series and did something fresh. But that is exactly what a lot of Trek fans hated.
I love Discovery. You should definitely give it a chance.
It's not perfect, and some of the complaints in this thread are completely valid, but I attribute the ferocity of the hate it gets more to the fact that it brought Trek back as a series after a very long hiatus, and took some pretty big swings as a result.
I was around when DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise were the new shows that "just didn't understand Star Trek," so from my perspective it's all very cyclical. Trek fans, as with most long-standing fandoms, don't all handle change very gracefully.
Trek fans, as with most long-standing fandoms, don’t all handle change very gracefully.
Should be shouted at every comic-con by the Star Trek cast as a reminder.
Honestly, it's just a different tone. That's about it. You should definitely watch it and decide for yourself whether you enjoy it, don't let other people online decide for you.
I will say that the first season is a little rough around the edges but all Star Trek shows are. It gets better as it goes on. Tone, acting, writing. It all takes a slight tonal shift in the second season. At least there's only 13ish episodes as opposed to the 24 of older shows.
It's not wrong per se, it's just different. I don't particularly like Discovery and Picard, but they're ok. They don't have the same monster of the week approach as the others, and a lot of the other stuff has already been discussed here; lack of development of the crew and their relationship, the main character is constantly on focus while everyone else in the bridge is in rear view, no breathing room for proper character development, the orcs/klingons, etc.
I would rather watch Lower Decks, Prodigy or even The Orville. They're closer to what I like about Star Trek (though The Orville takes a bit to get there).
Pop culture is mythology. You decide what's canon.
Aside: Y'all think the Egyptians ever had arguments over which version of Horus was canon?
Absolutely. In fact they definitely had wars about it.