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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

hissss it burns ussss

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

First couple of seasons were “ok”. But after the jump to the future the show became almost unwatchable.

Bad Trek is better than no Trek and the fact that this show spawned SNW gives it a pass in my book.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Just like Matrix 2 and 3 didn't exist, Discovery does not exist either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Just watched Section 31.

Guess AI crap gets to be canon now. Mercurial Scottish crazy Vulcan bots, too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I don't care about Canon. Every Trek has done silly things that are then included, or ignored, based on the next writers whims.

What did annoy me was that it became less and less fun to watch. Neither the scripts nor the sets and backgrounds felt like they where done by people who liked the general ideas and vibes of star trek. Or maybe they just didn't share my idea for star trek.

Pretty much only sticked around because I liked Stamments, Culber, and Adira. For all it's failings, I did feel they nailed representation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Isn't tos technically the only one not a spin off and therefore the only canon?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If I've never seen them, they don't exist. Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks.. none of it. I'm safe and pure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At least give lower decks a try if you’ve seen the rest of trek, the references alone make it fun to watch. It’s AU it doesn’t taint the cannon but it’s still trek and a good time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

From the clips I've seen, I can already tell you I don't like the character designs or the humor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

My wife and I are watching Star Trek for the first time ever. We're on the 4th season of The Next Generation. So I'm not "in the know". Should we not watch discovery when we get to that point? What's wrong with it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I personally liked it a lot. I liked the fact that it broke from the style of the 90's Trek series and did something fresh. But that is exactly what a lot of Trek fans hated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love Discovery. You should definitely give it a chance.

It's not perfect, and some of the complaints in this thread are completely valid, but I attribute the ferocity of the hate it gets more to the fact that it brought Trek back as a series after a very long hiatus, and took some pretty big swings as a result.

I was around when DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise were the new shows that "just didn't understand Star Trek," so from my perspective it's all very cyclical. Trek fans, as with most long-standing fandoms, don't all handle change very gracefully.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Trek fans, as with most long-standing fandoms, don’t all handle change very gracefully.

Should be shouted at every comic-con by the Star Trek cast as a reminder.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Honestly, it's just a different tone. That's about it. You should definitely watch it and decide for yourself whether you enjoy it, don't let other people online decide for you.

I will say that the first season is a little rough around the edges but all Star Trek shows are. It gets better as it goes on. Tone, acting, writing. It all takes a slight tonal shift in the second season. At least there's only 13ish episodes as opposed to the 24 of older shows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's not wrong per se, it's just different. I don't particularly like Discovery and Picard, but they're ok. They don't have the same monster of the week approach as the others, and a lot of the other stuff has already been discussed here; lack of development of the crew and their relationship, the main character is constantly on focus while everyone else in the bridge is in rear view, no breathing room for proper character development, the orcs/klingons, etc.

I would rather watch Lower Decks, Prodigy or even The Orville. They're closer to what I like about Star Trek (though The Orville takes a bit to get there).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pop culture is mythology. You decide what's canon.

Aside: Y'all think the Egyptians ever had arguments over which version of Horus was canon?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. In fact they definitely had wars about it.

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