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I'd be too worried about the CCP backsliding, but if it theoritycally collapsed, and the ROC swooped in to take its place, then yeah I'd be fine with it. Better than Trump's america

Me being OK with a specific nation as superpower had zero impact on weather or not that nation becomes a superpower or not.

When you refer to becoming democratic, you mean like how it has been until a couple of years ago? Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?

I think your premise - If China becomes democratic - is a really, really big IF.

But hey if they can show us a better way and use their resources to help the world, go nuts. A true 1:1 democracy would be fascinating to see implemented.

I'd rather have multipolarity.

Not really, the same issues that plague the world right now will still exist, just stemming from a different entity

Is hexbear leaking or something?

Yeah, no, the Chinese government should not be in charge of China, less so of the world.

I don't want to have a camera tracking my every movement and lose social points every time I make a misstep. I don't want to just disappear when I say something the government doesn't agree with.

Having said that, Fuck pooh bear

There should never be a global super power. Ever.

Linguistically, I want neither English but Chinese, but an auxiliary language to be the lingua franca. I already know Esperanto, so this would be a good candidate as far as I'm concerned. There's no way I'm learning Chinese.

I want to see as much nonfree closed source software replaced by FOSS as possible, no matter who makes it.

The others (pop culture, companies) wouldn't bother me much at all. But I don't think Christmas would stop being popular at least in Europe.

Can it become a global superpower without becoming “democratic”?

Because that means a liberal western style democracy right? Where policies enacted by representatives only benefit 1% of the people? Like scientific research has shown that like 10% of laws passed actually represent the will of the vast majority of people. And 50% represent the will of the 1%.

While in China people are constantly polled (like monthly or weekly sometimes) about their opinions, situations, desires, and then laws are formed from that. They participate in local government in councils, and directly decide how their immediate community lives.

What even is democracy? To me it’s to have the will of the people represented in our states.

This doesn’t happen anywhere in the west. When was the last time a government in any major western country was POPULAR. And did what people actually wanted?

How is THAT democracy?

No. Even if they dramatically changed on all fronts, became a democracy, promoted LGBT+ and racial civil rights, broke up their concentration camps, stopped surveiling citizens, gave people true elections, and stopped cracking down on political opponents, their nation is facing an extremely serious gender and population imbalance, one that will have drastic impacts on their society and stability in the next 30 years. A large portion of their workforce is going to retire and cannot be sustained by the smaller population that are kids and teens now. There's also a severe gender imbalance from the One Child Policy favoring boys over girls. There's no getting off that train, and shit like incel culture and a ton of retirees causes bad political instability. Or wars, to distract from problems at home, like what Russia is doing.

It's going to be a massive problem since they don't have much in the way of immigration, and even if they got a ton of people pregnant now, they are still facing down a 10+ year deficit of people.

Hell, the only reason why we aren't in the same boat is that we didn't implement boneheaded policies like that, and immigration helps offset our birthrate being below the replacement rate of people. We depend on immigrants as much as they depend on us.

This reads more like "do you care if Chinese culture becomes popular and dominant" and I am not sure. Except for the language (which I don't think I could learn before I die) I don't care, the music is good, movies, dance. And China and India are both so populous it would make logical sense to me that one might be the trend-setting culture.

But politically I think it more likely that the US finds its way back to democracy, than China finding its way there.

I wouldn't have a problem with any actually democratic country being a superpower since I've always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it's flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.

As for the things listed, I wouldn't mind the whole Chinese becoming the defacto world language considering I could probably learn it and if not, translation tools are better than ever before in most cases. I wouldn't mind Chinese Hollywood so long as they were making quality animated films (which is way more than possible for them currently, just look at films like Legend of Hei and Big Fish and Begonia). Fengshui as a spiritual practice I can't get behind personally, but have no problems with.

Got no complaints about where UN headquarters would be moved to in this hypothetical so long as it's not an authoritarian country. I don't mind Lunar New Year becoming a major holiday since it's fairly harmless as a concept (just don't go blowing yourself up with firecrackers somehow). So long as the safety and privacy measures are roughly the same and I'm not being uber spied on, don't really care who has control of business manufacturing, no authoritarian country though.

Knowing Baidu, without the government requirement to censor, they'd become the new gøøgle in this hypothetical world, so you wouldn't catch me directly using it. Don't have enough info on harmony to make a statement about it since I usually just use budget samsun phones with their android tweaks. As for windows/Linux, there are already whole entire Linux distros (like Deepin) that may be forks of one of the big distros but are their own thing. But knowing me, I'd still stick with whatever Linux I am using at the time, so little to no impact for me there.

All in all, I don't have a problem in this hypothetical. But that's something we're pretty far away from ever becoming a reality, though.

no.

why?

because democracies don't work in a world devoid of consequences against the rich and powerful.

It wouldn't be any different, the US is NOT a democracy either and is a global superpower 🤷‍♂️

There has to be more than one superpower. Humanity is too immature to behave itself without the threat of mutually assured destruction.

Most of the bullshit American hegemony really started to ramp up after the fall of the USSR when the US found itself unchecked. It could basically go in and fuck up whatever country they felt like. At least during the cold war, they had to consider the possibility of a power equal to their own countering them. Without a check and balance on the world stage, the U.S. has proven itself repeatedly to be without a doubt, the villain of the story.

They’ve had a bunch of mass attacks by knife and vehicles. Guess what the CCP does?

Improve quality of life? No. Make chef knives harder to obtain? Yes Profile childless men and monitor them? Yes

I don't understand why you would connect these two things. Since when does any power's foreign policy treat those in the rest of the world as if they have any of the rights afforded to their own citizens? The US certainly doesn't.

Sure why not?