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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Ahem. Umm, conservatives are angry that others are not calling something what THEY want it to be called?

Hmm. So.... I just feel like... perhaps, there's a similarity here. Some people... want to be referred to a specific way... but usually conservatives have a problem with that.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Executive orders have no control over non-government entities. They are just official instructions given to lower executive office departments on how to operate.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Apple is not beholden to executive orders... No private company is.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Le's rename Dan Crenshaw to One-Eye Jack first

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

This is foreshadowing dark times ahead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

They haven’t updated the name in the geographical systems, so nobody is calling it that yet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Only about a third of the Gulf of Mexico is US territory, so how can the US president unilaterally rename it? Seems Mexico has the larger claim to naming rights.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Google Maps still calls it Gulf of Mexico also. And they still call that mountain "Denali". It isn't just Apple that didn't drop everything to push out a software update to hundreds of million of devices in less than 24 hours for nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Real question here: It is titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.” - Has the Gulf of Mexico ever been named "Gulf of America" in any reasonable historical context, or is this just the usual made-up "fact" from Donald the Jester?

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Actually, the Gulf of Mexico appears called like that around 1500 AD, when the United States were not even an idea of a nation. So no, it never was called like that because it was named centuries before the US existed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

In this vein, I'm ok with calling it Gulf of America, the (super)continent, so long as the denonym for people of the USA also changes, since it's a continent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Agreed. We should no longer be referred to as Americans, and instead let's call ourselves the Shitholes.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (10 children)

It's weird how people seem to think that demonyms should match the name of the country exactly...

Should we also say "united kingdomer"?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe Gulf of (Central) America

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Alright folks, time to pick a demonym! Cast your votes on USAians or Absolute Unit[ed State]s.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Surprised he hasn't tried to slap his name on something by EO yet, like a blue state.

"New York is such a weak name-- you know it, I know it-- I had an uncle that went to New York folks, great man, smart man. He told me once with tears in his eyes, New York could be great, but it's so sad, could be great though. So it needs a biglier name, powerful name, not weak, powerful. From today I've decided it's now called, Trump Trork."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

The senator for North Mexico needs to stop being such a snowflake.

[–] [email protected] 192 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things ...

They get a government crying over the name of a body of water.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They say they want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things. What they actually want is a government that makes them feel superior to all the people they've been convinced to hate, in this case Mexicans and Leftists. Trump knows this, and gives them what they want so that he can get what he wants, which is free reign to exploit his position and his country for profit while his loyal voter base blindly supports his efforts to usher in their demise.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's a very important body of water, ok?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Fuck is he going to rename Lake Ontario too?! Lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It will be a body of oil soon enough. Then the world will probably get on board with the new name.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

This is one of the worst things of this asshole's term.

We're living in a climatic emergency that is going to affect the world forever, reaching a tipping point, and this bastard and his voters are working to accelerate the proccess while the rest of the world tries to fight it. At this point, my only wish is that things like the Los Angeles fires spread in that shithole of a country until there's nothing left.

Innocents will pay, but so are we, who couldn't even vote there and will be "enjoying" his actions as if we did.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Indeed. It is the hurricane class five generating hot tub. How else could nature teach the most boneheaded MAGA-brains that climate change and global warming is real but by depopulating the coastal states...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

They'll be blaming the gays anyway.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Rename to gulf of Huracán to better represent what it does and the local storm god.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh, no, it doesn't work that way for them. See, if a natural disaster strikes a blue city/area, it's god doling out punishment for their wickedness. If a natural disaster strikes a red city/area, it's god testing their faith because he loves them so much.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago

Are eggs cheaper because of this?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did Dan Crenshaw contact the Gulf to ask how it wants to identify itself?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

yes, but it asked to be called "The Rainbow Gulf"... and he decided to maybe forget that ever happened.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How does this lower the cost of housing?

[–] [email protected] 278 points 2 days ago (6 children)

For people always calling the others "snowflakes" and "easily triggered", they sure do have a thin skin.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's always projection with these people.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were so sensitive” is my response to these types IRL.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

"Facts don't care about your feelings snowflake."

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (4 children)

what's funny is Trump didn't directly change the name. that takes time. the relevant naming-people have to take it up and formally do it. All Trump did was order them to, and, uh, that only affects goverment things.

Everybody else, Apple included, are going to be using the familiar name. because Trump is a moron.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Don't count on it, Apple and Google were both at inauguration

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don't know... Isn't naming (and even country boundaries) already localized based on where the users are? Isn't a possible scenario that Apple and others could show Gulf of America to US users and Gulf of Mexico to everyone else without even spending too much effort?

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