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A lot of subreddits are banning/proposing to ban X links in response to FΓΌhrer Elon's wonderful gesture of love and tolerance. Should this instance follow suit?

Also, Instagram/Threads/Meta links. Same question.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck no, great way to alienate yourselves, stifle platform growth and decrease content/engagement

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think both Twitter and Musk are incredibly toxic for society, but we don't want to set that precedent. People can make their own choice whether to visit the site. At most, links to Twitter should be flagged as such.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Sure. Don't need it.
Only have installed for news from some creators I follow and don't have any other presence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Yes, PLEASE! Even without the whole Sieg Heil debacle Twitter is ass to use if you're not a registered user. Same with Meta & co.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I don't think you should do this, so what makes you better than them? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ [About blocking pixelfed mentions on META]

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Stop asking and just ban it already

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

As a source for OC art and pics? No

As a URL in post? Yes

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Anything from US media should be banned as well. The US created nato using a lot of high-level nazi party members. It supports nazi collaborator Banderaists in Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Automatically replace them with xcancel links or something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Yes... we should probably ban Xitter links... but maybe allow other front ends? You know, because screenshots can be forged.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I'm all for banning oligarchic media (news, social, etc). The dude sig heiled and literally controlled the social media narrative to further his political agenda, and people are like "buT MY fReE sPeACH!". Also, I can't even read those posts since they require you to log in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes.

Evidence suggests that X is a hate site run by a fascist.

Meta isn't quite there yet, but heading in the same direction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Regardless if he is a saint or not, it's super centralized social media and we shouldn't support it

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you think Lemmy should act like Meta, which banned Pixelfed links and Mastodon instances?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Logic like this is like refusing to use violence against colonizers because your colonizer uses violence.

Tactics cannot be evaluated solely on the basis of whether your opponent uses them. Banning certain sources robs them of a little bit more reach and that's a good thing if you're talking about an explicitly fascist platform. I think either screenshots or archive links should be the only time x posts are allowed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Slippery slope of censorship. Where would it stop?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

with a federated linked network of social media sites run by it's users

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The way I see it, the slippery slope that we're currently on is tolerating nazis and bigots.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Things that aren't Nazis might be a good stopping point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

... does ML still block curse words?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Would it be possible to automatically change Twitter links posted and substitute them with a mirror site?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Wasn't Lemmy supposed to be for free speech/anti-censorship and shit? Or maybe I got it wrong? Yall do realize there are many reasonable things on X and not just the right-wing/Elon stuff. Right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

You have to be willing to walk away from and ignore corporate media platforms, or else they'll never be defeated. And content creators need to also learn to not post their stuff to these platforms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people take umbrage in supporting a publication owned by a nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

does not make any sense to ban if you dont want x link just dont open it but letting data to not flow on instance and instead using screenshot will just decrease the storage

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

no. but I hope the software increasingly gives power doward. block at every level for the individual. block keywords. follow other uses blocklists. etc. and communities should decide at that level but ideally at the highest level you want no interferance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It would be nice to have more curation control as a user.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'd prefer to see people screenshot/crop and also link to an archived version or a frontend. These services (X, Instagram, Meta, etc.) often require you to login for a lot of things (including seeing posts) and also block VPNs.

It definitely is harmful to Lemmy's userbase to click on these links, but I also don't think we should create a walled garden. Users can always choose to use solutions like LibRedirect.

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