Stop asking and just ban it already
this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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Anything from US media should be banned as well. The US created nato using a lot of high-level nazi party members. It supports nazi collaborator Banderaists in Ukraine.
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Automatically replace them with xcancel links or something.
Yes... we should probably ban Xitter links... but maybe allow other front ends? You know, because screenshots can be forged.
No
I'm all for banning oligarchic media (news, social, etc). The dude sig heiled and literally controlled the social media narrative to further his political agenda, and people are like "buT MY fReE sPeACH!". Also, I can't even read those posts since they require you to log in.
yes
Yes.
Evidence suggests that X is a hate site run by a fascist.
Meta isn't quite there yet, but heading in the same direction.
Regardless if he is a saint or not, it's super centralized social media and we shouldn't support it
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Do you think Lemmy should act like Meta, which banned Pixelfed links and Mastodon instances?
Logic like this is like refusing to use violence against colonizers because your colonizer uses violence.
Tactics cannot be evaluated solely on the basis of whether your opponent uses them. Banning certain sources robs them of a little bit more reach and that's a good thing if you're talking about an explicitly fascist platform. I think either screenshots or archive links should be the only time x posts are allowed.
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Slippery slope of censorship. Where would it stop?
The way I see it, the slippery slope that we're currently on is tolerating nazis and bigots.
Things that aren't Nazis might be a good stopping point
... does ML still block curse words?
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Would it be possible to automatically change Twitter links posted and substitute them with a mirror site?
Wasn't Lemmy supposed to be for free speech/anti-censorship and shit? Or maybe I got it wrong? Yall do realize there are many reasonable things on X and not just the right-wing/Elon stuff. Right?
Lemmy is software that can be used however the instance admin that hosts the community that you are using want it to be used. It is censorship proof which means that you are free to launch your own instance and publish your own content which will be sent to and be accessible from other Lemmy software instances that federate with you and allow the content or people can sign in themselves to your local instance if you allow them to make accounts and access your software and hosting.
That makes sense. I guess the instances I'm using are pro-censorship and not Lemmy itself.
You have to be willing to walk away from and ignore corporate media platforms, or else they'll never be defeated. And content creators need to also learn to not post their stuff to these platforms.
Some people take umbrage in supporting a publication owned by a nazi.
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does not make any sense to ban if you dont want x link just dont open it but letting data to not flow on instance and instead using screenshot will just decrease the storage
Yes.
Yes
Yes.
no. but I hope the software increasingly gives power doward. block at every level for the individual. block keywords. follow other uses blocklists. etc. and communities should decide at that level but ideally at the highest level you want no interferance.
It would be nice to have more curation control as a user.
Yes
I'd prefer to see people screenshot/crop and also link to an archived version or a frontend. These services (X, Instagram, Meta, etc.) often require you to login for a lot of things (including seeing posts) and also block VPNs.
It definitely is harmful to Lemmy's userbase to click on these links, but I also don't think we should create a walled garden. Users can always choose to use solutions like LibRedirect.
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I think it's important to preserve the original source for verifiability.
Perhaps require the main link to be to a mirror or screenshot, but allow the original link in the body of the post.
Perhaps some automated conversion with a warning when posting that it does this?
Yes and ban Meta too.
Yes. Ban it. No more traffic to big social media. If something is newsworthy there will be a blog post about it.
Is there a technicality for xcancel.com?
There should be a bot that converts the links like there is for youtube.
If you dont like X posts, you can not open X links. But dont make others unable to view it if they want
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So easy to just screenshot or something there is no reason to link there.
Sources are important, along with screenshots. Images can be manufactured or manipulated. Posts can be edited.
It's crazy that you're getting downvoted. It seems, people WANT to be fed fake news as long as it aligns with their beliefs.