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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Just to tone set, I appreciate the rambling and thinking out loud, I'm kind of doing the same and if I don't write this intro people might think im mad or am dwelling but really I just want this to be better

for the record, Vegan Theory Club and Vegan Home Cooks moved off of lemmy.world ahead of this by several months because I don't agree with their philosophy or motivation. Mods and users of my instance were involved but me (tech admin) and Arcane Potato (admin) were not involved at all and to be honest I only sort of know what happened, I'm cooking food and posting about my gardening. To address your last thought first I do not care about fracturing anything, I don't view my instance as a "lemmy" instance, it is its own website with its own content and the rest doesn't matter. I'm trying to grow my local communities with local users and the federation is a bonus. In my experience online active forms don't need hundreds of thousands of people to be fun or interesting, Reddit needs that to sell ads.

There is no question that lemmy IS the same social media “mode” as reddit, a link aggregator where users can democratically sort news and articles and topics and discuss things. Lemmy is a clone of reddit, this can’t be disputed. The question is how to make it better than reddit and avoid the pitfalls. Right now moderation and admins are a bit problematic like e.g. the recent vegan clusterfuck.

Reddit has never been democratic and the votes drive a mystery algorithm with karma scores and the votes themselves live behind a wall of fuzzing that Lemmy does not do. There is also hidden moderation which isn't possible on Lemmy with the modlog. So there is a lot of cogs in making reddit content viable and it isn't simply what people vote on. My thoughts is that this is probably for the best if they're going to have them at all, but makes them kayfabe like WWE Wrestling. Direct democracy as what is occurring now on Lemmy sucks and is basically spam that favors bots and propaganda. In my take moderation and admins are not the problem, it is lack of quality users who are willing to contribute which is the signal and too much noise of douche bags with no ownership or respect shitting all over it. If people want a site to doomscroll while depressed on the toilet, I'm for sure not willing to pay for that. They should just use reddit. One really big and key difference is that I personally own the server it runs on and it is open source software with an open license that I am free to modify.

I think this is important to understand if federated media is going to succeed. We need most people, many of whom already pay subscriptions for spotify and hbo, to pay for and deploy instances. There are already managed service providers that host it for you for reasonable rates. I don't really think instances should have more than a handful of communities (if any) to avoid large centralized hosts like lemmy.world. Each instance is a collection of only the communities subscribed on that instance or created by one of the users and becomes a personal service for that person or small group of people. You're right about the fracturing and we see that now but I think that can be solved with multi-comm tags pretty easily. I think we should do more to promote specific communities than instances. For Vegan Theory Club, I really only want to promote [email protected] and getting that entire thing out there is the goal.

To be honest I think 100 people per maximum per instance is probably a sweet spot where people who decide to pay for it can keep an eye on all the users and the costs for any one person won't spiral out of control (~12 usd/month for a hosted container service). I think having smaller instances of accountable users to each other is the end goal and it will take a lot of education, software development and changes to move in that way. To your point I think discoverability for communities is problematic now but this is beta and third party services might come up with something eventually.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Believe it or not I've come into contact with Microsoft Exchange 2010 running on Server 2008 for 2000 days once. The company had ransomware.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't think surpassing or having anything to do with reddit is valuable. I use lemmy because I think reddit sucks but now I can see how it can be better. For example, I want to disable all voting on my instance, I don't believe it helps anything and the only reason lemmy has it is because of reddit, there is no algorithm or anything. That to me seems like the worst reason to have something.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Well, my experience is running a large lemmy server is pretty annoying and takes a lot of time to actually turn into a social media site with people instead of just bots and you don't see any improvement for long times. I think after the reddit thing happened technical minded people were able to quickly launch this software but it isn't what you expect and you eventually stop logging in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

By educating and helping your friends and neighbors about how they operate to denying them victims

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

libreoffice, particularly calc. I keep all my finances and planning in spreadsheets I migrated from excel years ago.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I defederated lemmy.world because I don't feel like hosting and re transmitting US propaganda.

 

Not only are nuclear build outs typically associated with weapons grade enrichment by design (yes I know they in theory don't have to be, but all the US ones do) but of course the US has to further exploit and steal from the indigenous to do so. Nuclear power is the golden calf of the green energy movement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I confused it with their other branding changes from 2015, who cares I don't use google anymore lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In case you want to feel old, this change happened almost 10 years ago now fellow grandpas.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I like my politics like I like my wrestling, kayfabe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Everything is black and white and simple, you see the TV told me that putler bad so I'm now going to make this my personality online agreeing with masses of ~~bots~~ people on reddit who vote blue! Also everyone who doesn't disagree with me is a bot, only I have the moral high ground in my superior American understanding of the world. If there is one thing Americans are well known for is intelligence.

edit: my last post was a joke about the other guy not you lol sorry my humor sucks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

All you need to know is this propaganda the CIA told me, I am very intelligent

 
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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

cross-posted from: https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/57040

Introducing to the Vegan Theory Club Lemmy!

This is a link sharing site for vegan things. We have open registration if you want to create an account and log in.

We host four communities which are like "subreddits"

  1. Vegan Home Cooks
  2. Vegan Recipes
  3. Gardening
  4. Vegan

The communities are here to help share links and photos for vegans by vegans.

[email protected] is a site for a discord server called Vegan Home Cooks Discord. This is a low-friction post-what-you-cooked community so we can share what we made today and talk about it, no recipes required. We want to provide motivation and encouragement for each other and show off what we made today.

[email protected] is focused on how to cook and links to recipe sites.

[email protected] is focused on our gardens, plants, hydroponics and learning how to do it. Some of us are pros and some are just learning and want to post what we're reading and what we're doing.

[email protected] is for general vegan news, I don't really know what to do with this one.

If these don't show up on your home instance please search for them on your instance to subscribe and federate the posts for everyone on your instance!

 

Introducing to the Vegan Theory Club Lemmy!

This is a link sharing site for vegan things. We have open registration if you want to create an account and log in.

We host four communities which are like "subreddits"

  1. Vegan Home Cooks
  2. Vegan Recipes
  3. Gardening
  4. Vegan

The communities are here to help share links and photos for vegans by vegans.

[email protected] is a site for a discord server called Vegan Home Cooks Discord. This is a low-friction post-what-you-cooked community so we can share what we made today and talk about it, no recipes required. We want to provide motivation and encouragement for each other and show off what we made today.

[email protected] is focused on how to cook and links to recipe sites.

[email protected] is focused on our gardens, plants, hydroponics and learning how to do it. Some of us are pros and some are just learning and want to post what we're reading and what we're doing.

[email protected] is for general vegan news, I don't really know what to do with this one.

If these don't show up on your home instance please search for them on your instance to subscribe and federate the posts for everyone on your insance!

 

cross-posted from: https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/33882

Leather has been seen as an unshakeable and prominent aspect of the fashion industry for millennia. The oldest intact leather shoe is over 5,500 years old, pre-dating the Pyramids of Giza by 1,000 years. But it's time for us to move forward.

Today, over 1.4 billion cattle have been bred and stand on once biodiverse land until they are slaughtered. Leather is now largely tanned with harsh carcinogenic chemicals, and destructive leather supply chains harmfully implicate workers, destroy critical habitat and pollute waterways with toxic chemicals.

Read our report series to understand these intertwined harms, and how we can move beyond them. When we work together, we have the power to transform fashion – and we have a responsibility to use this power for good.

https://www.collectivefashionjustice.org/s/Leathers-impact-on-people-report.pdf

https://www.collectivefashionjustice.org/s/Leathers-impact-on-the-planet-report.pdf

https://www.collectivefashionjustice.org/s/Leathers-impact-on-animals-report.pdf

https://www.collectivefashionjustice.org/s/CFJ-a-just-transition-beyond-leather.pdf

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We're Moving! (vegantheoryclub.org)
 

TL;DR: Please search and subscribe to [email protected] on your instance to cache it on your instance so we can get visibility. We're moving to our own hosting. Thanks for everything Ruud!

I'm excited to announce some big changes for our Vegan Home Cooks. As many of you know, Lemmy has been our platform of choice and we are hosted on the largest Lemmy instance lemmy.world. However, it's time for us to evolve and move to our own instance. Let me explain why.

Lemmy.world, while a significant player in the Lemmy universe, has diverged in its vision and management from what we seek in a platform. The admins there have different political and operational views that don't align with our goals. This is no slight against them; it's just a matter of different paths.

It's important to recognize that Lemmy is, at its heart, a passion project. Developed by talented individuals driven by their ideals rather than corporate goals, it operates on a scale that's more hobbyist than mass-market. This has its charms, but it also means that development isn't as rapid as one might expect in a more commercial environment.

The thing is, this approach works for many in the Lemmy community. The developers, supported by donations, have been content with this pace and scale. Even major instances have been okay with this grassroots, community-oriented approach. For a platform born out of a communal ethos rather than a corporate one, this isn't surprising.

However, things started shifting when Reddit made some API changes. Suddenly, Lemmy was thrust into the spotlight as a potential drop-in replacement for Reddit. This influx of users, many with expectations shaped by the slick efficiency of corporate tech, put an unprecedented strain on the platform and its developers. Imagine, a small, community-funded team suddenly dealing with the demands of 50,000 new users. It was a clash of cultures and expectations.

Lemmy.world stepped up during this influx. Run by volunteers, they took a more corporate approach to manage the surge. Their rapid growth brought them under the spotlight, attracting both hackers who exposed major flaws and users who demanded rapid scaling and development.

This brings us to the crux of the matter. There's a growing rift between the Lemmy developers and the team at lemmy.world. The developers, whose political views differ significantly from many in the Western tech sphere, run lemmy.ml with a distinct set of principles. The arrival of a large number of new users, many with different viewpoints, led to tensions and even bans.

This situation has led to a split within the community. A group of developers, frustrated with the direction and pace of Lemmy, are creating Sublinks – a Lemmy-compatible platform. Their plan? To eventually replace Lemmy, particularly on large instances like lemmy.world, effectively outmoding the original platform.

So, where does this leave us? We've been observing these developments and have concluded that the best way forward for our community is to establish our own Lemmy instance. This move will allow us to build a space that aligns with our values and needs, free from the external pressures and conflicts affecting the larger Lemmy ecosystem.

This is a big step, but it's one that opens up exciting opportunities. We'll have more control over our platform's direction and be able to create an environment that truly reflects our community's spirit and needs. Please search and subscribe to [email protected] on your instance to cache it on your instance so we can get visibility. We're moving to our own hosting. Thanks for everything @[email protected], you and your team have been a gracious host.

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