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Meanwhile my lonely ass been sitting over here absolutely loathing Fallout: New Vegas since its release. I did not like that game. I probably would today if I got over myself and tried playing it again.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I liked NV way more than FO3 because it felt like the same world as FO1 and 2, while 3 felt like an imposter wearing their skin.

It also is the most RPG-like of all the 3D fallout games. Obsidian actually knows how to make an RPG. And having a couple of the people who made FO1 and 2 was a big help. To this day, Old World Blues has some of the best dialogue in a video game.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

For anyone considering playing or replaying New Vegas, I cannot reccomend the Viva New Vegas modlist enough.

It's unfortunately not just some "one click setup". There is a Wabbajack installer, but there are some small steps you still need to do manually too.

That said, it is by far the best and most comprehensive "vanilla plus" modpack I have ever used. I'm a modding addict; I don't say that lightly. It doesn't change core game mechanics, story, or anything the makes New Vegas what it is.

It polishes what's there, upgrading visuals in a consistent manner that blends perfectly with the original content. It fixes countless longstanding bugs, performance issues, and crashes (only two crashes in ~40 hours on a setup that was modded even further past what the pack includes).

It polishes New Vegas to what it should have been on release (if Bethesda didn't force Obsidian to rush it out the door early), then brings it as close to the quality of a modern release as possible through modding.

If you want to replay Fallout 3, a lot of people prefer playing it in the New Vegas engine using the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. The version of Viva New Vegas that covers that and includes mods for the Fallout 3 content is "The Best of Times".

It appears to be up to the same quality as VNV standalone, but I haven't used it myself yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

+1 for the Tale of Two Wastelands mention. It’s the single greatest mod you can install, because it brings all of the quality of life improvements from New Vegas (like true iron sights) into FO3. Plus all the mods you install on FO:NV will also run on Tale of Two Wastelands, so you can actually get a decent playing experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Btw, don't forget A Tale of Two Wastelands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm probably going to get hate for this, but do you know if any mods that allow the game to work in Windows 11? None of the fan patches I could find in the Nexus actually work, even if they claim they are for Win11 users. The game still crashes constantly. I'm seriously considering digging my old gaming PC out of storage just so I can play NV one last time.

How's the game in Linux? Haven't tried it there yet cause it barely runs in Win7, an OS it was designed for (but at least it runs), so I didn't even try it in Linux cause I'm doubtful it'll work any better than it does in 11.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really reccomend you just follow the Viva New Vegas guide I linked. If you only follow it through the first few pages and stop before the "VNV Extended" section begins, there's no gameplay tweaks, only bug and crash fixes. The only texture mods in that section of the guide are for landscape textures (mainly distant landscape textures) to reduce visible repetition.

It's the most up to date guide I've found concerning crash fixes, performance fixes, and general stability fixes. There's a bunch of old "fixes" that actually cause more problems on modern systems, and you don't need to worry about sorting through any of that yourself if you follow the guide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In my experience, the crashing is usually from some directX rendering compatibility issues with the windows 11 driver and display stack. Try using DXVK (which is what steam proton uses on Linux) to convert the driver stack into something vulkan compliant. For me, personally, it SIGNIFICANTLY reduced crashes even in windows 10. I'm rocking an AMD GPU though so my vulkan performance is notably more stable than many Nvidia equivalents. To use DXVK you just download the zip file from the GitHub releases page and drop it (extracted, 32 bit dll's specifically) into the folder with the game binaries (similar to old dinput override mods). Then launch the game like normal and it SHOULD "just work".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

do you have the steam version or gog? i played the steam version on windows 11 last year and had no more problems than usual. also if you’re using the steam version, you might have to make sure it’s not installed within Program Files or Program Files (x86). those install locations can cause problems with mods.

you might also benefit from installing the 4gb patch in addition to IStewieAI’s engine tweaks. a lot of the mods in the first few sections of the viva new vegas guide are pretty much essential in order to play the game with minimal bugs and crashes. also some of the “crash fixing” mods cause problems in windows 10 and 11.

hopefully one of the above things works. i had to find a lot of those things out the hard way, it can be a pretty finicky game. really fun though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

GoG, but I really appreciate you trying to help. I already tried the 4GB patch and I don't remember if I tried IStewieAI because it's been over a year since I last tried running the game, and I have ADHD. I'll look into that and the rest. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I never played Fallout New Vegas.
It's sitting unused in my Steam library.
Is it actually any good?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

There is a hard "yes/no" answer to this.

It looks like a first person shooter, so you might expect it to play like a fun FPS game. Is it fun in that way? No, not really. Mods can fix this a bit, but it will never be Doom 2016.

It is published by Bethesda, so you might expect it to have fun exploration like Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim. Is it fun in that way? Kinda, but it's a bit theme-parky and the explorable world is less "open" than other Bethesda offerings. What you find is always fun, but the "getting there" part is only so-so. (Kinda the opposite of other Bethesda games this way)

So why is it still talked about so much and called a masterpiece then you might be asking? Well, in the spirit of the great CRPGs, the narrative agency is insanely good. Where many RPGs give you the illusions of choice, New Vegas is the ultimate "choose your own adventure".

While there is no "wrong way" to play a game, if you want to see why people love New Vegas, try to stop thinking about RPGs from the BioWare "paragon/renegade" dichotomy, and instead try to really consider, "what outcome do I want to happen", and New Vegas will surprise the shit out of you with how much agency they really give the player. In this way, it is one of the GOATs. (And I'm not talking about the exam)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It has the best story of all the Fallouts, by-far. Really amazing what they managed to pull off with only 18 months of development time. But because of the rushed schedule, the game is also extremely buggy. I would not recommend playing it without mods that fix the bugs and restore missing content that wasn't finished in time for release. It also doesn't play well with modern OSes. Some people have had success running it on newer PCs but for me it's been hit or miss. Don't let that discourage you from trying it, though. It's such a good game that it's worth putting some effort into trying to get it to run.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I mean, it's the Majora's Mask of Fallouts.
They already had an engine, they didn't need to play it safe, both because the flagship entry was giving it a boost and protecting it from detracting pressures.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

i spent hundreds of hours playing it across xbox 360 and PC.

PC is a better experience by far

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

if you like fallout then yeah its good

if you dont like fallout or open worlds with a lot of talking to people then youll probably be bored out of your mind

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I have well over 5k hours in fnv split between Xbox 360 and PC. I'm terrified there's never going to be a game like it again with the way everything is becoming a live service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It's funny when nostalgia kicks in with stuff you never even stopped doing (like games that I regularly replay from 20+ years ago, or music I still listen to).

How tf is Doom nostalgia, I last played it like a bit over a year, maybe 18 months ago? And yet it is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I am not a gamer. I enjoyed fallout 4 a lot, though, and kept hearing all this hype for New Vegas. Legit bought that game thinking it was new. Lmao

What I've played has been good, though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who wants to play NV again/for the first time, check out Viva New Vegas, a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant. There's now a Wabbajack version, meaning you can get it perfectly modded with very little user input.

I also recommend "Just Assorted Mods" if you want some modern QoL changes (sprinting, hit markers, weapon wheel, loot quickmenu, etc)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant.

Can you elaborate? How is the game not playable without mods?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Playable" is a spectrum. First there's the usual compatibility problems that come with running an old game on modern PCs. Plus it's a notoriously buggy game running on a notoriously buggy, engine with DX9 code that did not scale well on the CPU.

With mods you get it to running flawlessly.

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