God damnit I literally just got Proton going like 4 days ago.
this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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I dont know of any alternatives but I will use Zoho Mail for now with my own domain. As they are cheap and reliable. I been using them for my business and it is great.
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I donβt use proton, but I would be grateful if you could share a link on how Proton sided with fascists.
Also, I use Mullvad for VPN and I host my own email
They didn't exactly "side with fascists", but Andy Yen, one of the board members on the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG, has very bad takes on politics, and just has a right-wing "Libertarian" vibe.
https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 (https://archive.is/l1WYU)
https://x.com/andyyen/status/1812442643726537182 (https://archive.is/ADc8C)
Huh, I wasnβt very concerned with your linksβ¦ but I googled and found out Andy Yen is the founder. Thatβs alarming
True, but Tim Brenners-Lee is also on the board, and he historically has generally good takes on tech and politics.
People are often unwilling to go against the positions of the guy who created the World Wide Web.
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I prioritize ease of use, reliability, basic features not behind a pay wall, solid support and ease of use through Thunderbird so I don't have to visit the awful web version of said mail program. While I had mentioned that I was on Tutamail, I did a search of them and found a Reddit post about them weighing pros and cons. The cons I read of them go against a little of the things I'm after.
So reluctantly, I had to go back to GMail. I spent over 20 minutes migrating, resetting, re-routing many addresses to my newer GMail. I know that privacy is neither here or there on surface web stuff so I don't care about privacy regarding that. I'll start caring about privacy when I sign up for more personalized things and that's where Tutamail is going to come into play.
AFAICT, it looks like all he's doing is praising Trump's pick for AG in the Antitrust division . . . although if you look over her Wikipedia page, you're right, it doesn't look all that encouraging.
Can someone on Mastodon ask the Proton CEO what it was exactly that she did that he likes so much? Anyone who can work at Fox for any length of time, frankly, is complete and utter shite.
EDIT: Also, just as a broken clock can be right twice a day, President π sank the Trans Pacific Partnership, which was the right thing to do, but for the wrong reason: mainly to get back at Obama for existing. So in the same way, I suppose it's possible that Slater did something good, but I'd sure like to know what it was.
Uggghhh I just upped for two years. Fucking asshats are all caving to the orange fuckhead. Probably off to Europe somewhere.
Ask them for a cancellation and refund. Don't explain the reason, just say you changed your mind, make up some excuse if they ask.
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I was mulling moving everything from Google to Proton. Guess I'll keep my money for now.
Uhg. How much longer until it's more viable to self host...
I will prefer to pay Zoho Mail instead of supporting Proton Mail. I was just holding into them because of their support to privacy and security but the lack of support to Linux and now this. I will move on.
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Wow!
Of all companies, this is one I didn't expect.
Damn.
the good news is this is a lesson to never trust any entity whose role in the world is to accumulate capital
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You could look at infomaniak, but I didn't have the best experience trying out (or even getting started with) their services. Finding a provider that has all of Proton's apps is going to be tough (or at least it was from me while I was looking to escape from Tuta). Good luck, tho.
Finding a provider that has all of Proton's apps is going to be toug
Nobody should be using any provider as one stop shop... That's how we got cooked by Google and Apple the first time folks.
Unbundle, mix and match...
Yeah it auck Proton did this but if you only got one proton service, it is eaiser to either do nothing or switch it.
I agree! I don't use Proton's VPN or their password manager for that reason. The equivalents I had in place already were fine and I didn't feel the need to switch over everything, just some things.
I feel like I should pre-emptively switch to Keepass incase Bitwarden goes right wing.
I mean, Keepass is free open source software so the political views of the developers don't matter as much.
I mean, Keepass is free open source software so the political views of the developers don't matter as much.
So is bitwarden, you don't have to use their servers.
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Phew! For a moment I thought you were talking about the steam compatibility thingy.
I thought they were talking about the elementary particleβI was afraid weβd have to find some other way of manifesting our physical existence.
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If that proton goes nazi, I am going straight to the farm